Those whose point of view you agree with don't need to keep the discussion civil because they're scared?
The emotional and the logical in human brains work in tandem. The emotional holds the logically in check and vice versa. We never want to pursue entirely utilitarian solutions to our problems, we hold our views in the context of humanity. It's these cold, calculating, sometimes less than toungue in cheek comments about 'turning the middle east into glass' which make you realize it's not a far hop in logic that has justified past tragedies in the minds of the perpetrators. Obviously there's no easy solution to fix these problems but its out of line with our values to not have a civil discussion about the issues.
On the one hand we hear people reject being the world's policeman.
On the other hand, they want us to be the world's sanctuary.
If we weren't the world's policemen Daesh wouldn't be riding around in US humvees and the Syrians would be living under a secular dictatorship rather than fleeing by the millions.
Those whose point of view you agree with don't need to keep the discussion civil because they're scared?
The emotional and the logical in human brains work in tandem. The emotional holds the logically in check and vice versa. We never want to pursue entirely utilitarian solutions to our problems, we hold our views in the context of humanity. It's these cold, calculating, sometimes less than toungue in cheek comments about 'turning the middle east into glass' which make you realize it's not a far hop in logic that has justified past tragedies in the minds of the perpetrators. Obviously there's no easy solution to fix these problems but its out of line with our values to not have a civil discussion about the issues.
Yes, yes, all of the world's problems are our fault.
Women and children are suicide bombers too. They are Sirians. Terrorism isn't a far stretch for them
Why is inundating our towns and cities with people that don't want to be Americans the only possible response to this? Why is the only moral, compassionate thing we can do is bring them here? I think there are other options but there's an election coming up and we must make this a political issue.
Well, I have to admit that Daesh would not exist if we left Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad to rule as they have. But we tried to make compassion a policy which made us the world's police. And that didn't work. So now we're trying to make compassion a policy to become the world's sanctuary. And I think that won't work either. There's a lot to be said for minding our own business much more than we currently do.
Governor Pence says "No":
Pence: Indiana will not accept Syrian refugees - TheIndyChannel.com
The haters will hate this. I applaud it.
Well, you answered part of it. Definitely an opportune time to turn conservatives' desire for responsibility into moral corruption. But also it's part of the ideology. Open borders and ****. And let's not forget the pragmatism of creating potential democratic voters.
I forget which agency administers the program in Indiana. Pence told them to stop. Is it legal? I dunno is the program constitutional?How does this work. If the feds let them in the country, and they are being supported by some private organizations (eg I saw some Catholic charity in one of the IN cities), how does a governor keep them out of the state? I can see him preventing the use of state funds or resources, but out side of that???
How is the state involved in the settlement of "refugees?" What if the feds decide to house them on federal property?
-rvb
How does this work. If the feds let them in the country, and they are being supported by some private organizations (eg I saw some Catholic charity in one of the IN cities), how does a governor keep them out of the state? I can see him preventing the use of state funds or resources, but out side of that???
How is the state involved in the settlement of "refugees?" What if the feds decide to house them on federal property?
-rvb
I forget which agency administers the program in Indiana. Pence told them to stop. Is it legal? I dunno is the program constitutional?
I think this delaying by governors is merely that. When the kerfuffle dies down, we will take in Syrian refugees.
Perhaps the question at this point is what is the best way to help? Is there an organization that can be trusted to administer aid near Syria? Is there an organization in the US that will help the refugees find productive endeavors, rather than giving them government handouts?