The coming food shortage.

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    All of it is caused by world leadership thirst for power. Especially here in the United States. We should not be having any oil/fuel problems or food crisis.
    Agree. We can more than adequately feed and fuel ourselves. We just need to ditch globalization, stop letting millions of people pour in, and stop putting our resources on ships and tankers and sending them off into the ether to service corrupt political games.

    Bring our heavy industry, fertilizer and chemical production, etc back and secure our own supplies for ourselves.
     

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    Agree. We can more than adequately feed and fuel ourselves. We just need to ditch globalization, stop letting millions of people pour in, and stop putting our resources on ships and tankers and sending them off into the ether to service corrupt political games.

    Bring our heavy industry, fertilizer and chemical production, etc back and secure our own supplies for ourselves.


    I blame Biden, the Democrat party and Rinos for any food shortage, fuel problems.
     

    Ingomike

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    We have been trying also ....but pretty much given up . If they aren`t paying attention by now , not much else we can say or do for them .

    I am doing my best to let family and friends know to stock up on canned and dry goods just in case.
    Don't forget a grain grinder for old hard beans. You can make refried beans, or soups with it. Even bean bread.
    Normalcy bias…
     

    smokingman

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    Then they can just start growing it in a lab or printing some off .......which seems to be their plan .
    How convenient for them .........
    You need lots of dead cows for that fake meat. The scaffolding used to "grow" fake meat is made from the cartilage and bone of......dead cows. Now,they tried soy based scaffolding(twice now)and I know beyond meat abandoned it because it produced less(with multiple batch failures) and cost them more to even try. So fake meat needs dead cows,the irony. Not to mention the use of hormones and antibiotics(made illegal for real meat in the USA). See lab grown meat does not have an immune system or any natural hormones to encourage growth.
     
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    Ingomike

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    You need lots of dead cows for that fake meat. The scaffolding used to "grow" fake meat is made from the cartilage and bone of......dead cows. Now,they tried soy based scaffolding(twice now)and I know beyond meat abandoned it because it produced less(with multiple batch failures) and cost them more to even try. So fake meat needs dead cows,the irony.
    Would you have any links on this. This is fascinating. Love to shove this up some people…
     

    smokingman

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    Would you have any links on this. This is fascinating. Love to shove this up some people…

    I am sure you can find others,but most lab grown meat is made on animal based scaffolding(bone and cartilage)that is edible itself. It is ground up in the "fake meat" and just becomes a part of the finished product. They may call it gelatin and it is(made from dead animals),but most who eat/buy it do not realize they are in fact eating dead animals with the meat component grown from stem lines created from even more dead animals...then tossed in an artificial hormone, antibiotic,and nutrient soup to grow. If fake meat had to exist without hormones and antibiotics like actual real meat it could not exist.
     
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    Karl-just-Karl

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    Agree. We can more than adequately feed and fuel ourselves. We just need to ditch globalization, stop letting millions of people pour in, and stop putting our resources on ships and tankers and sending them off into the ether to service corrupt political games.

    Bring our heavy industry, fertilizer and chemical production, etc back and secure our own supplies for ourselves.
    I agree. But we will need to eliminate large portions of the EPA, abandon an unknown number of policies and requirements, and fire countless bureaucrats from government positions.

    While I'm all for that, I don't see either party taking that position. There are reasons we can't produce our own food and fuel. There are reasons we have lost huge portions of our industry.

    Call it the oligarch/globalist/socialist agenda it doesn't matter. What we have lost is the American culture that encourages people to build upon what their forefathers built.

    Making things better for the next generation meant laying down a stable foundation for them to inherit, not giving them more stuff so they can enjoy more leisure time.

    Before y'all start lining up to say, "not me", I'm not pointing to any particular individual. I'm referring to society as a whole. Would we be where we are if it wasn't true?
     

    Ingomike

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    A friend shared this the other day:

    "The food industry is becoming tightly coupled to the financial sector, increasing what scientists call the “network density” of the system, making it more susceptible to cascading failure. Around the world, trade barriers have come down and roads and ports upgraded, streamlining the global network. You might imagine that this smooth system would enhance food security. But it has allowed companies to shed the costs of warehousing and inventories, switching from stocks to flows. Mostly, this just-in-time strategy works. But if deliveries are interrupted or there’s a rapid surge in demand, shelves can suddenly empty."
    This is where they invent Soylent green…
     

    Mark-DuCo

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    I've been stocking up for awhile. For the last 6 months every trip to the store I buy 5 cans of corn, peas, and green beans, along with a few bags of rice and dry beans, and a thing of canned ham or spam. I have plenty of pork and deer meat in my freezer for now, and tons of salt to cure it if needed.

    I also have stores of heirloom seeds for lots of plants, along with a garden full of stuff already.

    It amazes me how many people only have a few days worth of food in their house. As of right now, i think i could easily go a year without having to buy food. The only thing I might miss is milk, but I have a nice dairy farm about 5 miles from my house and I know the farmers real well.
     

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    Be leery if .gov comes out with a product called "soylent green" to remedy a food shortage.

    Edit: I see Ingomike beat me to the "soylent green" reference.
     
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    I am sure you can find others,but most lab grown meat is made on animal based scaffolding(bone and cartilage)that is edible itself. It is ground up in the "fake meat" and just becomes a part of the finished product. They may call it gelatin and it is(made from dead animals),but most who eat/buy it do not realize they are in fact eating dead animals with the meat component grown from stem lines created from even more dead animals...then tossed in an artificial hormone, antibiotic,and nutrient soup to grow. If fake meat had to exist without hormones and antibiotics like actual real meat it could not exist.
    Very interesting. But what they are talking about there is not what you are going to be finding at your local supermarket. At least not now, there is none currently approved for sale in the US. That is real lab grown meat, what they sell in the stores is plant/yeast/etc based meat substitutes.
     

    smokingman

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    Very interesting. But what they are talking about there is not what you are going to be finding at your local supermarket. At least not now, there is none currently approved for sale in the US. That is real lab grown meat, what they sell in the stores is plant/yeast/etc based meat substitutes.
    Even plant based "meat" is still grown in gelatin scaffolding provided from animals. It is the reason they say "plant based" instead of the legal term Vegan. Many make the mistake of thinking plant based is vegan,it is not the same.
    Some you can buy in the store may be vegan,if produced on a soy based scaffolding,but most is not.
     
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    Timjoebillybob

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    Even plant based "meat" is still grown in gelatin scaffolding provided from animals. It is the reason they say "plant based" instead of the legal term Vegan. Many make the mistake of thinking pland based is vegan,it is not the same.
    Some you can buy in the store may be vegan,if produced on a soy based scaffolding,but most is not.
    I'm going to need a cite for that. I do see some labeled as vegan. But quite a few use things like whey protein and such. And vegan isn't a "legal term", the FDA/USDA/etc do not regulate or certify "vegan" products. They do regulate plant based though.
     
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