Russia vs. Ukraine Part 3

[SEIndSAM]

 

[smokingman]

How much property confiscated from taxpayers in the States has been pissed away to date on this nonsense?

Including money not done by congress directly such as the IMF,World bank,ICFR,NGO's. Well over 200 billion. Hell we spent almost a billion through ICFR on LGBT+ in Ukraine since 2012 and since the congress money ran out it(ICFR) has been funding most of the Ukrainian government(yes you still pay for every Ukrainian government employee, including those who are retired).

Approving money for all the above is done by congress though.

 

[BigRed]

Including money not done by congress directly such as the IMF,World bank,ICFR,NGO's. Well over 200 billion. Hell we spent almost a billion through ICFR on LGBT+ in Ukraine since 2012 and since the congress money ran out it(IFCR) has been funding most of the Ukrainian government(yes you still pay for every Ukrainian government employee, including those who are retired).

Approving money for all the above is done by congress though.

Absolute BS

 

[BigRed]

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-02-09/whats-inside-the-senates-95-billion-bill-to-aid-ukraine-and-israel-and-counter-china

Kill this ******* bill

 

[dudley0]

You thought Ike was a hippy?

It was his hair that made people think it.

 

[smokingman]

Biden Rejects Putin's Offer For Negotiations On Ukraine Issued In Tucker Carlson Interview | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Biden Rejects Putin's Offer For Negotiations On Ukraine Issued In Tucker Carlson Interview​

 

[smokingman]

"Vladimir Putin Will Not Lose This War": Sen. Ron Johnson And Elon Musk Discuss Facing Reality In Ukraine | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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[smokingman]

Anyone want to tell the boat loads of US political class that keep visiting Kiev?

 

[Brad69]

So how am I not surprised the Ukraine’s are just thief’s. I guess we will make the payroll for them indefinitely.

 

[DadSmith]

Anyone want to tell the boat loads of US political class that keep visiting Kiev?

Is this actually true?

 

[BugI02]

More importantly, how much to drone the **** out of Klaus and the WEF?

 

[smokingman]

Is this actually true?

Here is what I understand thus far(it could be wrong).
So he had a team in advance of his visit checking security. They found out about the plot to kill him, and tried to get to Kiev(to the embassy/flight out) from Odessa to leave Ukraine(killed outside of Beryslav) . They were found dead just outside of Beryslav about 3.5 hours from Kiev by small arms fire. That is not the official story though. This was.

Ukraine war: Two French volunteers killed in Russian drone strike - Macron confirms

President Emmanuel Macron condemns as "cowardly" Thursday's Russian drone attack in southern Ukraine.

www.bbc.com

Followed by

Macron scraps Ukraine visit due to 'security issues media

The French president earlier promised finalize a security deal with Kiev French President Emmanuel Macron has postponed his planned visit

www.bignewsnetwork.com

There was enough known he cancelled the visit he had planned for months and the conservative media(Macron call them far right and worse)in France ran the story I originally linked. Something was going on for sure,and it involved risk enough to himself Macron cancelled the trip.

 

[Ark]

Ukrainian Drone Boats Sink Another Russian Navy Landing Ship

Ukraine's explosive-laden uncrewed surface vessels continue to exact a steady toll on the beleaguered Russian Black Sea Fleet.

www.twz.com

Another high profile loss for the Black Sea Fleet. At this point I am starting to wonder if the Russian Navy even posts regular watches or has functioning radar. How do they keep failing to shoot down driverless speedboats?

 

[dudley0]

Ukrainian Drone Boats Sink Another Russian Navy Landing Ship

Ukraine's explosive-laden uncrewed surface vessels continue to exact a steady toll on the beleaguered Russian Black Sea Fleet.

www.twz.com

Another high profile loss for the Black Sea Fleet. At this point I am starting to wonder if the Russian Navy even posts regular watches or has functioning radar. How do they keep failing to shoot down driverless speedboats?

Simple answer to that is the boats have crates labeled Vodka.

Genius idea really when you think about it.

 

[BugI02]

Ukrainian Drone Boats Sink Another Russian Navy Landing Ship

Ukraine's explosive-laden uncrewed surface vessels continue to exact a steady toll on the beleaguered Russian Black Sea Fleet.

www.twz.com

Another high profile loss for the Black Sea Fleet. At this point I am starting to wonder if the Russian Navy even posts regular watches or has functioning radar. How do they keep failing to shoot down driverless speedboats?

They are black, operate primarily at night and they have a low profile and sit very low in the water. Acquisition by radar or a human observer is difficult by design

 

[Kdf101]

They are black, operate primarily at night and they have a low profile and sit very low in the water. Acquisition by radar or a human observer is difficult by design

I will add that the Russian navy has never been their premier force. Even during the Czars, their navy pretty much sucked.

 

[actaeon277]

Ships do better at sea.

 

[erasure]

I think Russia is expanding the scope of the conflict a wee bit

 

[Leadeye]

I'm reminded of how quickly the UK ships folded under attack by the Argies with Exocets. I would imagine that these boats have at least as much explosive as a current marine torpedo so one or two hits will probably put down anything the Russians have in the black sea. New tactics and weapons have to be responded to, I wonder if the Russians have something like the Phalanx that they could automatically slave to a target acquired by radar or sonar.

 

[Leadeye]

I've often wondered if this all got started because Putin saw western carpetbaggers raking in a fortune out of Ukraine and wanted a piece of the action. He's got that mafia mind.