Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[Leadeye]

This seems like the most likely explanation. It seems to sometimes work, and sometimes not. It appears it may help people with severity, but it’s certainly not worth demonizing people over not getting it. Nobody is endangering others by not getting the vaccine.

I've wondered at what point in this whole narrative the definition of unvaccinated merged with contagious. Big media and the government seem to think they are the same, but they really aren't.

 

[jsharmon7]

I've wondered at what point in this whole narrative the definition of unvaccinated merged with contagious. Big media and the government seem to think they are the same, but they really aren't.

My guess is sometime this past summer. There was a peaceful span of maybe 4-6 months at the beginning of the year where nobody was treated like a scumbag for not wanting the shot. There were enough people wanting it that the rest of us were left alone. Once the demand began to dwindle, the social pressure started turning up. As soon as people argued it was a personal decision, then it became about the greater good. That’s when we all became scumbags.

Conspiracy designed to increase sales? Coping mechanism by the vaccinated to reassure themselves they made the right choice? Tribalism? Who knows.

 

[Ingomike]

The woke is often strongest in HR for some reason.

The HR degree are heavy on humanities classes, are indoctrinated, then indoctrinate the executives, who allow the indoctrination of the employees and business plan…

 

[jamil]

This is good news. But what good is this if the Dems have already shown they don't care about court rulings, and have already said they're going to enforce it even if the USCC blocks the mandate? Hopeful, but skeptical. Thanks, Ogovernment

If one wanted to destabilize the country, that would be an effective way to do it. Claim moral high ground to get uour supporters behind it and then middle finger the rule if law. Really, what could the courts do?

 

[Ark]

Revised my earlier post. Though I do feel like the people 100% IN for the vaxx aren’t that far away from forcing that decision on others. Their dismissiveness towards others and the information (not conspiracies) being provided here leads me to feel that way.

After being lied to and lied to, concerns being dismissed, warnings ignored for decades by the government, businesses and the corporate media, I’m just beyond cynical anymore.

2020 made me actually understand on a gut level how a society can put millions of people in death camps or chop hundreds of thousands of their neighbors to death with machetes. I have never been more convinced of the absolute necessity of keeping and bearing arms.

It's not for Russian paratroopers, it's for my neighbors when the media virus infects their minds and they pick up trowels and pickaxes and machetes and come to kill me for being a wrongthinker.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Chasing out experienced employees over this should cause management to cashier their HR departments, it's a high price to pay in this labor short economy.

In our company it wasn’t H.R. pushing a jab or job mandate, it was the owner of the company. The same owner who turned me onto Hillsdale College. Was pretty surprised he would do that.

One coworker thinks he must have been paid off or part of some conspiracy.

 

[Ingomike]

If one wanted to destabilize the country, that would be an effective way to do it. Claim moral high ground to get uour supporters behind it and then middle finger the rule if law. Really, what could the courts do?

NOTHING! By design the judicial branch had no enforcement mechanism…

 

[BugI02]

If one wanted to destabilize the country, that would be an effective way to do it. Claim moral high ground to get uour supporters behind it and then middle finger the rule if law. Really, what could the courts do?

posse comitatus

 

[jamil]

My guess is sometime this past summer. There was a peaceful span of maybe 4-6 months at the beginning of the year where nobody was treated like a scumbag for not wanting the shot. There were enough people wanting it that the rest of us were left alone. Once the demand began to dwindle, the social pressure started turning up. As soon as people argued it was a personal decision, then it became about the greater good. That’s when we all became scumbags.

Conspiracy designed to increase sales? Coping mechanism by the vaccinated to reassure themselves they made the right choice? Tribalism? Who knows.

They were using greater good arguments with masks. Early on with the vaccines even many of the “greater good” zealots couldn’t get a vaccines. But once they become vaccinated, now they’re the good guys. They’re doing their part. They’re contributing to ending the epidemic. They’re saving lives. They’re “safe”.

You people who won’t get vaccinated, you’re the bad guys. You’re not doing your part. You’re taking lives. You’re unsafe. Disgusting. Contagious.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

The woke is often strongest in HR for some reason.

Why do I picture most HR departmental meetings as discussions about how many "likes" or "dislikes" their decisions will get them on Facebook Meta or re-tweets on Twitter now?

 

[jamil]

posse comitatus

Cool. More civil unrest. More destabilization. But, There probably not any other options at this point.

 

[BugI02]

Do you still think that the people running the government currently will somehow have an epiphany without being forced to

 

[KLB]

Do you still think that the people running the government currently will somehow have an epiphany without being forced to

I heard an opinion that they were making decisions based upon poll results.

 

[jsharmon7]

They were using greater good arguments with masks. Early on with the vaccines even many of the “greater good” zealots couldn’t get a vaccines. But once they become vaccinated, now they’re the good guys. They’re doing their part. They’re contributing to ending the epidemic. They’re saving lives. They’re “safe”.

You people who won’t get vaccinated, you’re the bad guys. You’re not doing your part. You’re taking lives. You’re unsafe. Disgusting. Contagious.

The Deplorables, Part Deux.

 

[Leadeye]

If one wanted to destabilize the country, that would be an effective way to do it. Claim moral high ground to get uour supporters behind it and then middle finger the rule if law. Really, what could the courts do?

I think at that point it all boils down to what the man with the gun decides to do. Watching the USSR and Warsaw pact die I think the turning point came when the man with the gun simply told his bosses, I'm not going to shoot those people anymore, and the game was over.

 

[jamil]

I think at that point it all boils down to what the man with the gun decides to do. Watching the USSR and Warsaw pact die I think the turning point came when the man with the gun simply told his bosses, I'm not going to shoot those people anymore, and the game was over.

Unfortunately, all the people who have the moral fortitude to say I’m not gonna shoot those people are the same ones standing up now saying I not taking that mandatory vaccine, and getting discharged/fired for it.

 

[ditcherman]

Unfortunately, all the people who have the moral fortitude to say I’m not gonna shoot those people are the same ones standing up now saying I not taking that mandatory vaccine, and getting discharged/fired for it.

We may have different definitions of “the man with the gun”.
Mercia.

 

[jamil]

We may have different definitions of “the man with the gun”.
Mercia.

I understand the difference between civilian and police/military. My comment was in reply to what leadeye was referencing.

 

[ditcherman]

I understand the difference between civilian and police/military. My comment was in reply to what leadeye was referencing.

Reference to the USSR/Warsaw pact aside, I read it as anyone with a gun. “WE” can make those choices.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Reference to the USSR/Warsaw pact aside, I read it as anyone with a gun. “WE” can make those choices.

In the context of what jamil is talking about are the men with guns propping up the regime.

That can be extended to anyone who has authority from the government to interfere in others lives with the threat of force.

When those propping up a regime say, no more, the regime is on its last legs.