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- Oct 3, 2012
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TL;DRYes.
Hello, as part owner of a garage door company and service tech for several years, I'm just trying to understand your statement about the emergency release. How would a thief gain access to this as it is on the inside of the garage? Best way to "lock out" your door if youre leaving for a length of time or youre just paranoid would be leaving it hooked to the opener and then unplugging it.
I just dont want misinformation being spread and I've never heard of an emergency release for your garage door being located outside of the door/garage itself?
The green ones are fiberglass, if you're thinking of the same ones I am. A neighbor just had new garage doors installed last year, I swear the panels were metal framed with a vinyl outer and inner sheet with rigid foam in between. I'll have to double check next time I'm over there.Do NOT attach wood or add weight to your garage door, bad idea. Also, most doors are made of wood or steel (although very thin) with a metal backing or a vinyl backed insulation. Yes some are made of vinyl, they're the yellowish/green ones you see that could be kicked or punched through.
I wonder about this one. Especially since they are trying to pass a state law that will allow you to protect your business and property. So that assumes currently you do not have a right in the place of buisness. (except for fear of eminent severe bodily harm or death. )As per "the law of self defence" by andrew branca, a very good book...
Indiana
general duty to retreat before use of deadly force - no
no retreat in castle 35-41-3-2(d)
no retreat in castle+ (curtilage) 35-41-3-2(d)
no retreat in castle++ (business) (yes, no statute given)
no retreat in castle+++ (vehicle) 35-41-3-2(d)
no retreat anywhere you have right to be (stand your ground) 35-41-3-2(c)
Very interesting to view charts of states, the democrat voting states tend to restrict your rights to defend.
Also like to add, after reading the book, life can be much easier if you convince the intruder to leave, and have police show up after or during the event.
Contrast to having police show up to a dead body with associated biological mess, and risking the financial/time burden of a possible court case if you live in a county that has a prosecutor that wants to make an example of you. Political bent of the prosecutor can play into this.
No. You cant kill somebody over "stuff". (see related, above)Sorry my question should have been stated more clearly. The door is open and I'm in the garage and perps stroll in and start to remove things from my vehicle that they desire without presenting any threat. Do I have options other than "please stop stealing my property and leave". It seems like the law is in the perps corner if they aren't threatening my life.. Deadly force use in the drive way is not an option to protect property but once they have entered the garage does that change the situation?
No need to be sorry,
Reworked this quote. Can't say FTFY, but it's my thought.
earlier in that scenario you put yourself at risk by hunting people in the dark outside of your home to end the risk to your family and friends. Risk -vs- Reward scenario. The reward is worth it.
When was this? I live in white county and haven't heard of one like this. Closest I can remember was either last winter or winter before. IIRC There was a string of trespassing/thefts, a guy and his friend were protecting his home/barn/something. Guy was outside and came in and his friend shot him by mistake.
Why would an attached garage be any different than any other room of your home? If someone entered your home through a garage window or your living room window, they are still in your home. If someone is in your home illegally they are a threat to you and your family. The law allows you to use whatever force necessary to end that threat. Deadly force should always be the final resort, but the room of your home the threat is located in is irrelevant. Do what you need to do to protect yourself and your family. Remember, you didn't choose for someone to die, the threat did. Your only choice is who that someone will be.
I had a lock between - till I got locked out of the house. If I have no intention of ever locking it...I put a steel door and a deadbolt between my attached garage and my house as soon as we moved in.
Yep, just half way between Bradis and my home. There was video of a garage burglary near Mooresville from a week earlier that they believe was the same two people and in the video one was seen holding a gun. Both was wearing Covid masks to prevent ID.Oh yeah, and don't go out into the garage. Last summer there were kids breaking into garages and rummaging through trying to steal stuff. One homeowner heard them, opened the man door, and was promptly shot by the punks. Looks like by a stolen gun. This happened blocks from Bradis on the other side of 67. Too close to home for me.
EDIT: And I was told by a family member when it came up on FB that he was armed. Gun in his hand, but he didnt have time to raise it and fire.
IMPD looks for 2 thought to be responsible for series of shootings, thefts
INDIANAPOLIS — Police are searching for a pair of thieves wanted for a series of crimes on Indy’s southwest side. Investigators believe the suspects are connected to multiple shootings …fox59.com
On another note, STOP LEAVING YOUR F#*#&ING GUNS IN YOUR DAMN CARS! It looks like one person's negligence led to the guy getting shot with a stolen gun in his garage. You gotta wonder... Would he have been shot had the first guy not been criminally negligent by failing to adequately secure his firearm by taking it in from the car?
Why would one need to "prove their life was in danger" inside their home, at least in Indiana?I don't think the argument is "Would you be justified in protecting your garage", as I believe most here feel you are. The argument is "Prove in Court that your life was in danger". These are two entirely separate things.
Thanks for recounting that situation!I immediately draw on him and he puts his hands up and I have him lay face down on the floor while I call my wife in the house and tell her to make sure they DON'T come out to the shed and to lock the door to the house immediately not knowing if there were more intruders. I then call 911 and the dispatcher tells me the nearest unit is probably 30-40 minutes away. I tell the dispatcher I have one at gunpoint and I'm not sure if there are more on the property. Dispatcher tells me if the suspect I have tries to get up or make a move "TO DO WHAT I FELL LIKE I HAVE TO DO" at that point. ISP unit arrived about 20 minutes later followed by several county units. Fortunately there was no other known suspects and I didn't have to use force but would have if needed too no doubt. This was the first and hopefully ONLY time I ever have to draw on someone on my own property although I've had to several times for my work.