Politically Motivated Violence Thread PART 2

[Keith_Indy]

Notice what else is in Doloff's belt... some sort of red topped canister looking thing...

Also there's gossip that there are even more missing frames from the Denver Post photographer. The camera is in burst mode, yet we do not see any images from this point to the next published photo where the gun has been fired and the pepper spray is sprayed.

Now, I have shot drag races with "burst mode" on a digital camera, they do sometimes hiccup as the processor is busy shoving data onto the memory card. However, I have to wonder, if the police get the camera or digital card if there will be deleted images from these crucial 1/10ths of a second on it. If so, the Denver Post photographer could be in trouble.

 

[NKBJ]

There are so many people who are radicalized, who are for politically motivated violence, that it seems to have almost become normalized for a large segment of people in our country. Makes me wonder how long before their guillotines aren't fake ones. But hey, these maniacs might not have enough patience for guillotines.

 

[Leadeye]

When “Isn’t” there a civil case, when the person being sued has deep pockets?

I doubt the "bodyguard" has enough assets to even make an appetizer for a law firm, that's why how this guy was employed will be important.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I doubt the "bodyguard" has enough assets to even make an appetizer for a law firm, that's why how this guy was employed will be important.

Right. I meant his employer.

 

[KG1]

The news group and Pinkerton are both scrambling to CoverTheirAsses. The news group says they contracted him through Pinkerton. Pinkerton says he wasn't employed by them. He was a contractor. It's not us. It's them.

 

[rvb]

Notice what else is in Doloff's belt... some sort of red topped canister looking thing...

Spare Mag

 

[Keith_Indy]

Spare Mag

Maybe, maybe not, details look off for a magazine when enlarged. Could be a magazine with some sort of red extension.

One of the stories said the news crew knew he had pepper spray.

 

[NKBJ]

So, everyone agrees that this killing was politically motivated violence?
Or rather, does anyone think it wasn't?

 

[Keith_Indy]

So, everyone agrees that this killing was politically motivated violence?
Or rather, does anyone think it wasn't?

Without further detail and video, I still go with my negligent discharge theory. He did not have the sights aligned when the shot was fired.

Just an opinion, subject to change and don't mean nothing.

 

[rvb]

Maybe, maybe not, details look off for a magazine when enlarged. Could be a magazine with some sort of red extension.

One of the stories said the news crew knew he had pepper spray.

Zoom in, you can even see the Taran tactical logo on the base pad.

 

[NKBJ]

The video appears to show that a plan was afoot to aggravate Keltner into taking action. And, that when Doloff tried to grab Keltner's pistol, Keltner backed up and sprayed at Doloff. And I'm thinking that as planned, Doloff then shot Keltner. So any how, that's how it looks to me. But as said above, for now (pending more info).

 

[jamil]

There are so many people who are radicalized, who are for politically motivated violence, that it seems to have almost become normalized for a large segment of people in our country. Makes me wonder how long before their guillotines aren't fake ones. But hey, these maniacs might not have enough patience for guillotines.

I can't help but notice that history is rhyming.

 

[jamil]

I doubt the "bodyguard" has enough assets to even make an appetizer for a law firm, that's why how this guy was employed will be important.

I'd guess that Pinkertons and the TV station will be sued.

 

[Leadeye]

I'd guess that Pinkertons and the TV station will be sued.

I would imagine that this isn't Pinkertons first rodeo, so I'm betting the Tv news station is going to get the worst of it.

 

[jamil]

Without further detail and video, I still go with my negligent discharge theory. He did not have the sights aligned when the shot was fired.

Just an opinion, subject to change and don't mean nothing.

I mean, it's an interesting theory. But, assuming the sights weren't off, they were aligned with where it hit. So what did he intend to hit, and did he hit it? He's saying that he thought the guy was pulling a gun. The guy he thought was pulling a gun got shot.

 

[jamil]

Zoom in, you can even see the Taran tactical logo on the base pad.

That's what it looked like to me. Spare mag.


BTW, they said two guns were recovered from the scene. I have not heard yet where the other came from, whether it belonged to the diseased or if it was a backup for the security terrorist.

 

[OakRiver]

I mean, it's an interesting theory. But, assuming the sights weren't off, they were aligned with where it hit. So what did he intend to hit, and did he hit it? He's saying that he thought the guy was pulling a gun. The guy he thought was pulling a gun got shot.

This is starting to sound like he has all the gear:
- Taran tactical baseplate on mag
- weapon mounted light
- rds

But no idea. He did not have the appropriate training. Did not utilize deescalation techniques. Did not sufficiently manage his client to keep them as an observer, and not risk them becoming a participant.

 

[Alpo]

And....no obvious badging to show that he was "Security".

 

[JettaKnight]

And....no obvious badging to show that he was "Security".

At least he should have a CCP sash.

 

[Alpo]

Just the word "Security' in large font on a hoodie would reduce his chances of getting the cute smacked off him.