Totally funny!
Concerning why the scope has to be so close to my eye,I get the arthritis thing, but not sure I understand why the scope has to be close to the eye. If what you're actually saying, is that you can't "move" your neck forward to get into the "exit pupil" of a rifle scope, have you given any consideration to mounting a long eye-relief pistol scope on a rifle? That would move the optical "exit pupil" of the scope farther back from where it usually is with a rifle scope. It sounds like the problem you're describing may be the one that the handgun metallic silhouette people already had to solve, and there is at least one handgun metallic silhouette shooter on INGO who uses high magnification long eye-relief pistol scopes a lot (on pistols of course). If you look around a bit, the world of long eye-relief pistol scopes is not limited to low-magnification models.
I was looking for a certain post & ran across this one above.1. Tikka: I've talked to guys here that have them or want them or that I've seen great range pics of
2. Bergara (they have a new $600 econo version)
B/C of seeing range pics, I recently have bought:
- Different CZ rifles: the 512 semi-auto, 457 Trainer & recently the 455 Varmint from Rala
- Savage A22 (Ggreen did well with this)
- Savage FV-SR bolt action from zachcz
What was the wind doing today?Adding to the previous target above where I shot the 1st row (in the "box") with the RPR,
and the 5th row with the CZ 455 Varmint, a week or two ago at the indoor range.-
I was looking forward to shooting outdoors since I can use both the front bag & rear bag.
At the indoor range there isn't room for a rear bag & have to use my shoulder which makes the crosshairs move around.
I knew I was going to improve my scores at the outdoor range using both bags.
WRONG! I couldn't believe it!
I demand that my rifles shoot 80% or I sell them & these two have survived the cut of a many other rifles but shot like crap today.
What was the X factor?
I used Winchester Super X 1300 FPS solid copper-plated round nose instead of CCI SV.
Was it the ammo?
But how could it do worse than at the indoor range using only 1 bag?
I was not pleased with the previous indoor scores last week being under 80%:
- RPR = 76% (Row 1)
- CZ 455 Varmint 68% (Row 5)
I should have done better at the outdoor range & don't understand what happened for the scores to drop, especially how much the CZ 455 dropped.
Today's scores outdoors:
RPR
- 66% (row 2)
- 57% (row 3)
CZ 455 Varmint
- 34% (row 4)
- 29% (row 6)
There seemed to be no rhyme or reason to the random spread of rounds with the CZ 455.
The rifle was rested on front & rear bags with the crosshairs not moving & all I had to do was pull the trigger gently.
It did, what
it wanted to do, when
it wanted to do
it, and how
it wanted to do
it.
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At 25 yds, I was told that didn't matter, but there was some wind, but I didn't think it was particularly gusty.What was the wind doing today?
Funniest thing I've heard all day.Looks like these rifles have finally shown themselves to be defective. I'll help ease your pain by taking the CZ off your hands.
Are you looking at theResults look fine to me...
Appreciate the encouragement!I was looking at all the pics. A lot of the groups just look fine to me. Some are huge, but most look pretty tight. I'd be happy with them anyway.
By your way of reasoning, a very small group 100% outside of the circle would be worse than a group that covered the circle or even had 1 or 2 in the circle. You are grading based on accuracy as opposed to precision it seems. I know others have brought this up before, and at least you are consistent on your ratings (even if it is flawed ;-) ), but kind of makes my head hurt trying to read the analysis.Are you looking at the
"Yesterday 9:51 PM "#306"
single target I posted with 2 old rows & 4 new rows from yesterday?
If so, you are my new best friend, ha ha!
Plenty of targets do 80%+ , hitting 90% upon occasion.
Anything below 50% makes me grit my teeth.
I have sold any rifle scoring only in the 60s% as a high.
Even my beloved Ruger 10/22 that I had the longest & loved for different reasons, took me months but I finally let it go.
I miss it.
Now that I've got 3 rifles usually doing 80% or better, it's getting tough.
Henry Pump not count, it is just for fun & a change-up, not for accuracy.
I'm keeping the semi action CZ 512 for sure.
These two bolt actions are going to be tough to choose between.
If they continue to take turns beating each other, I will enjoy both.
...I'm possibly interested in getting a varmint type of 17 HMR bolt gun to play with, but now wondering if it would just drive me nuts...
I get it on the accurate and consistent. The amount of variables that doddg throws in when shooting bolt guns would just rack my CDO. Shooting action steel with handguns, I get throwing in some things. Shooting bolt gun and trying to compare from range trip to range trip with many variables self introduced would unnerve me.That is half the fun of it. The challenge to be accurate and consistent.
If I was going to start with a precision bolt gun in the current climate, I would go with a 22 (unless you are a well stocked centerfire reloader). Match ammo is readily available and, while not cheap, isn't $3 a round.
Nothing wrong with 17hmr but 22 gives you more options in the current climate. IMnsHO - which you also didn't ask for. ;-)
No worries. I get it on 22 vs 17 HMR. I've done the bolt gun in 22LR before (and 308). Yours is probably the same advice I would give someone as well, but I'm interested in something with a little more pop than 22, but I only really need something to play with at 100 yards or so, that I can shoot as an approved caliber at Marion County Fish and Game. That said, I'll admit to not having shot a 17 HMR before.
Always appreciate your input and advice.Those look like fine groups to me.
If you want my opinion (which you didn't ask for)....that's all you can ask for out of CCI SV.
CCI SV is my preferred shootin' ammo but I find that it has about a 15% flyer rate (that's a WAG not a supportable number). By a flyer, I mean a shot that I never saw the crosshairs move and watched the errant POI. Every ammo has limits.
My suggestion (again which you didn't ask for), is to take that CZ 455 and get multiple brands of high end precision ammo and focus in at 50 yards and let the gun tell you what groups the smallest.
Lastly on my list of things you didn't ask my opinion of. You ain't gonna find a scope layout that works until you pony up for a fully adjustable chassis stock. (See my Post #7 herein). Maybe you don't want to make that commitment to a single rifle and that is understandable but that is my two cents.
All in all...you have posted some solid groups!