Gun Control Frenzy

[dugsagun]

After every school shooting theirs a huge push by the anti to grab the limelight and try and get one of thier useless laws passed. Hopefully , as with the last shooting, cooler heads will prevail. Guns have been banned on school grounds since 1990, thats getting close to 30 years. How many deranged killers has the "gun free school zones act" stopped? None, we all know this, i would imagine the anti's do too, but convincing a grieving public that banning guns does nothing to safeguard their children is at the very least a major uphill battle. As others have said , we can state fact after fact after fact and all the talking heads will say is we are heartless. We just need to remain calm and be prepared to fight in congress by letting our representatives know the truth.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Mass shooting plot for SoCal high school thwarted by alert security guard

Seems like a reasonable route to take, then.

I don't really get how schools are even open to outsiders. Every door should require a fob that only teachers and staff have. Every door locked during school hours. One or two guards at the main entrances. Doesn't seem hard.

 

[T-DOGG]

Mass shooting plot for SoCal high school thwarted by alert security guard

Seems like a reasonable route to take, then.

I don't really get how schools are even open to outsiders. Every door should require a fob that only teachers and staff have. Every door locked during school hours. One or two guards at the main entrances. Doesn't seem hard.

I have a friend who's argument is there is no money to fund this. I told him the number crunchers need to get to work and find a way. How much money are the lives of children worth?

 

[Sniper 79]

I have a friend who's argument is there is no money to fund this. I told him the number crunchers need to get to work and find a way. How much money are the lives of children worth?

I am an at home dad right now. My kids will start next year. I would be honored to work security at my kids school for free. I am sure there are others out there that would do the same.

Someone has to grow a pair and start a plan to deal with these sick folks. Dust off the electric chair and make an example. Stop all the political correctness. Stuff like this doesn't happen in other countries because they would whack them on the spot.

 

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[ArcadiaGP]

Some blatant activism by CNN

Here are the 71 Florida lawmakers — all of them Republicans — who refused to vote for an assault weapons ban, along with their NRA rating

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/966352014258130949

 

[actaeon277]

I have a friend who's argument is there is no money to fund this. I told him the number crunchers need to get to work and find a way. How much money are the lives of children worth?

Ask them how they find the money for sprinklers, alarms, and drills for fires.
And yet, how many kids are burned in school fires?
But they don't discontinue those things, cause they work.
Why treat guns different?

 

[T-DOGG]

Ask them how they find the money for sprinklers, alarms, and drills for fires.
And yet, how many kids are burned in school fires?
But they don't discontinue those things, cause they work.
Why treat guns different?

I told him they could arm and train staff members for less than one police officer's salary. He disagreed.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Ask them how they find the money for sprinklers, alarms, and drills for fires.
And yet, how many kids are burned in school fires?
But they don't discontinue those things, cause they work.
Why treat guns different?

Need more of this:

Wisconsin Assembly rejects background check bill, offers funds for armed school guards | Politics and Elections | host.madison.com

 

[Bennettjh]

Need more of this:

Wisconsin Assembly rejects background check bill, offers funds for armed school guards | Politics and Elections | host.madison.com

Yep.

Contacted my(our) Congress critters.

 

[2A_Tom]

That sounds good.

 

[Sling10mm]

I had a discussion about this with my kids yesterday, one 19 and a freshman in college, the other 17 and a junior in high school, and explained how disappointed and afraid I was to see the kids of their generation begging for the government to take there rights away. The same government that spies on us, is driving us into financial oblivion, and can't be bothered to look into this scumbag that was telling the world what he planned on doing. Thankfully they agreed.

It's just easier to give away your freedom and your property for a promise of safety I guess... yet the evidence shows we don't get our money's worth.

 

[actaeon277]

I just saw a WGN advertisement about news on "ghost guns"

 

[Sling10mm]

I was listening to Cavuto on the way home from work. He had Ben Stein on, who I thought was generally a sharp guy (at least on economics), but Ben went on a rant flip-flopping between saying how he loves the 2nd Amendment and has a lot of guns, to nobody hunts or target shoots with an AR-15... WTH? He also commented that machine-guns were outlawed in the 30's, but they didn't try to ban more guns after that... again, WTH? Guess he doesn't remember the AWB of 1994.

It was really a goofy segment with just Ben railing on AR-15's, and no counterpoint provided.

 

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I was listening to Cavuto on the way home from work. He had Ben Stein on, who I thought was generally a sharp guy (at least on economics), but Ben went on a rant flip-flopping between saying how he loves the 2nd Amendment and has a lot of guns, to nobody hunts or target shoots with an AR-15... WTH? He also commented that machine-guns were outlawed in the 30's, but they didn't try to ban more guns after that... again, WTH? Guess he doesn't remember the AWB of 1994.

It was really a goofy segment with just Ben railing on AR-15's, and no counterpoint provided.

I'm a fan of them both. Can't help but notice Neil's anti-gunish manner over the past several days. Ben was just disturbing. "I'm a 2A guy, with a lot of guns. No AR15's though, you cant have them either."

It was disturbing.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[2A_Tom]

If only he was not so subtle.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Again... are there people here thinking he's not serious about bump stocks?

I will be strongly pushing Comprehensive Background Checks with an emphasis on Mental Health. Raise age to 21 and end sale of Bump Stocks! Congress is in a mood to finally do something on this issue

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/966662241977360384

 

[ArcadiaGP]

LaPierre is speaking at CPAC... being very political, going after intelligence community, speaking ill of the "left"...

The NRA was supposed to be an advocacy group... a bi-partisan movement. I know it's CPAC and all... but it seems like a bad move to make for the broader electorate.

Stick to guns and gun safety... Else they turn into the Right's version of PPFA or some Soros group.

I'm sure there are plenty here that love this, the absolutists that think anyone with a left-leaning idea is the enemy... but this just feels like a move they're going to regret.

Edit:

And a pretty ****ty ad by Colion, disappointing.

https://twitter.com/NRATV/status/966534627522301952

"The mainstream media love mass shootings. I'm going to say it again; the mainstream media love mass shootings…and you, the #MSM, just put out the casting call for the next mass shooter."

This is the left equivalent to saying "gun owners have blood on their hands"... just slandering the character of ideological opponents. Needlessly inflammatory.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

... Compared to a couple of decent lines from Wayne:

"Any American school that needs immediate professional consultation and help... should call the @NRA's School Shield Program. And we will provide immediate assistance and we will also provide it absolutely free."

"Some people think the NRA should just stick to its #2A agenda and not talk about all of our freedoms. But real freedom requires the protection of all of our rights. And a #2A isn’t worth its own words in a country where all individual freedoms are destroyed."

This is the angle to stick with... safety, freedom, liberty... Don't become a partisan arm of a political party. People like guns, regular Americans understand guns... both sides of the aisle. It's harder to appeal to them if you attack them.