Russia vs. Ukraine Part 2

[1DOWN4UP]

And the tiny dancer freak.

 

[BigRed]

I guess billions for Ukraine is cheap when we plan to give the Iranians a trillion.

Biden's New Iran Deal Offers Iran $1 Trillion by 2030 - This Is Treasonous | The Gateway Pundit | by Richard Abelson

Stumbling through the Middle East this week, calling the Holocaust an “honor” and removing the Israeli flag from his limo to go visit Palestinian terrorists in East Jerusalem – the first American President to ever visit Arab-occupied East Jerusalem – may not be the worst crime Joe Biden...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

I am so tired of these mother ******* ***holes plundering taxpayers of the States for the fruits of their labors to hand it over to others.

These ******** can burn in Hell.

 

[KG1]

I am so tired of these mother ******* ***holes plundering taxpayers of the States for the fruits of their labors to hand it over to others.

These ******** can burn in Hell.

All this while our own country is going to ****.

 

[smokingman]

Anyone else buying this?
I mean a Ukrainian plane carrying Serbian "mines" to Greece with a fully Ukrainian crew.
Yea right. More likely a black market arms sale of NATO given weapons gone wrong.

The "final" destination was Jordan,not Greece. Just an fyi(second article which mentions toxic cargo,not weapons,unless you look at wayback of the page where it called it a weapons shipment...news edited in real time these days).

"Local residents reported seeing a fireball and hearing explosions for two hours after the crash."

MSN

Cargo plane carrying toxic material crashes in Greece, killing all crew

An Antonov An-12, operated by a Ukraine-based company, crashed in northern Greece on Saturday on its way from Serbia to Jordan. All the eight-member crew died, Serbian authorities said on Sunday.

www.rfi.fr

Image from the first article of the crash site. "mines"

 

[SEIndSAM]

 

[Keith_Indy]

I guess HIMARS is a game changer...

Russian Military Given Formal Order To Target Ukraine's Long-Range Weapons From US | ZeroHedge

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www.zerohedge.com

 

[BugI02]

Proxy wars always turn into weapons technology testing laboratories. Good to know our weapons designers are still among the best

 

[Leadeye]

I don't know anything about the HIMARS, but I would imagine that it shoots then moves. Relocating to another prepared position and shoots again.

 

[Brad69]

 

[KG1]

 

[SEIndSAM]

 

[Keith_Indy]

Russia shoots down their own advanced jet just weeks after delivery

Russia took delivery on a handful of advanced Su-34M fighter bombers late last month, and one has already been shot down over Ukraine. It wasn't Ukrainian

www.sandboxx.us

 

[smokingman]

Ukraine's Defense Chief Offers Ukraine As A 'Testing Ground' For NATO Weapons | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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The Ukrainian military chief made the offer in a fresh pitch for more Western arms. "We are interested in testing modern systems in the fight against the enemy and we are inviting arms manufacturers to test the new products here," he said.

"So, I think for our partners in Poland, in the United States, France, or Germany, it’s a good chance to test the equipment. So, give us the tools. We will finish the job and you will have all the new information," Reznikov said.

Nothing really new here.

The charging more than 650 with treason though and purging the government of Ukraine is.

Zelenskyy fires head of Ukraine Security Service, announces hundreds of criminal treason cases

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said his country is undergoing a "self-purification" process as he looks to root out officials and law enforcement officers who are guilty of corruption and treason.

www.foxnews.com

Peace and negotiation are simply not allowed. From what I have read his childhood friend(former head of SBU,now charged with treason) tried to get him to accept things as they where before the invasion IE giving up Crimea.

I am sure the USA has nothing to do with it.

 

[Lmo1131]

We're being played like a two dollar fiddle.

 

[nra4ever]

 

[Route 45]

Captain Ukraine!

Russian lawmakers baselessly claim their army is up against biologically modified Ukrainian super soldiers

Since the beginning of the war, the Russians have pushed outlandish conspiracy theories about Ukraine using biological labs for nefarious reasons.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Ark]

Some tech just walked past a mothballed A10 and heard it purr.

 

[smokingman]

New front likely opening soon.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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We were always at war with Eurasia right?

 

[1DOWN4UP]

MoA - Lavrov - Extended Range Weapons In Ukraine Will Lead To More Loss Of Its Land

 

[smokingman]

Ukraine close to default on debt,even with the billions sent to bail it out.

MSN

The group, including Canada, France, Germany, Japan, the United Kingdom and the United States, said they would provide a coordinated suspension of debt servicing from Aug. 1 to the end of 2023 and potentially for an additional year. **Even with all governments listed above waiving debt for 2 years Ukraine can not pay interest on debts owed to BANKS(which is why they are asking the IMF for more money*


HOW MUCH DEBT DOES UKRAINE HAVE?


At the end of 2020, Ukraine had $130 billion in external debt outstanding, according to World Bank data.
Butsa noted that in 2022, Ukraine was on paper set to pay the International Monetary Fund more than it would receive.

“We are talking with the IMF and other partners about what the solutions might be. We need liquidity from the IMF to replace these outflows,” he said.

Ukraine estimates the costs of the war combined with lower tax revenues has left a $5 billion-a-month fiscal shortfall – or 2.5% of pre-war GDP. Economists calculate that pushes the annual deficit to 25% of GDP

It is impossible for Ukraine to pay interest,much less debts.

Ukraine Total Gross External Debt

External Debt in Ukraine increased to 161533 USD Million in the fourth quarter of 2023 from 150938 USD Million in the third quarter of 2023. This page provides - Ukraine External Debt - actual values, historical data, forecast, chart, statistics, economic calendar and news.

tradingeconomics.com

MSN

Yes,it is an MSN article.

Of course it is likely the reason the MSM have turned.

Corruption concerns involving Ukraine are revived as the war with Russia drags on

Since the start of the war with Russia, the Biden administration has mostly ignored Ukraine's corruption history. Questions resurfaced about its suitability as a recipient of massive infusions of aid.

www.npr.org

AP puts it:

As it presses ahead with providing tens of billions of dollars in military, economic and direct financial support aid to Ukraine and encourages its allies to do the same, the Biden administration is now once again grappling with longstanding worries about Ukraine's suitability as a recipient of massive infusions of American aid.
Those issues, which date back decades and were not an insignificant part of former President Donald Trump's first impeachment, had been largely pushed to the back burner in the immediate run-up to Russia's invasion and during the first months of the conflict as the U.S. and its partners rallied to Ukraine's defense.
But Zelenskyy's weekend firings of his top prosecutor, intelligence chief and other senior officials have resurfaced those concerns and may have inadvertently given fresh attention to allegations of high-level corruption in Kyiv made by one outspoken U.S. lawmaker.

Zerohedge

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If you can not pay the bankers...well guess we will see.