Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[buckwacker]

Doth not thou judging me at this very moment?
This thread, and forum as a whole is just a bunch of passing judgement, so get over it.


my contention is that self-identifying evangelicals are increasingly drifting away from anything with solid doctrine and into a religion that's guided more by right-wing politics than anything else. There's a large amount of anecdotal evidence and polling data that points this out.


Increasingly, when I say I'm an evangelical, I have to follow up with, "but not like that."

I'm not the one clothing myself in righteousness.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Doth not thou judging me at this very moment?

 

[ghitch75]

Everybody have a beer !

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i like beer

 

[phylodog]

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That **** happens and some of the unvaccinated absolutely will become dangerous.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

That **** happens and some of the unvaccinated absolutely will become dangerous.

Just hope there’s enough of us.




Past 2 years showed me there’s a lot more sheep than I realized

 

[firecadet613]

Just hope there’s enough of us.




Past 2 years showed me there’s a lot more sheep than I realized

It's downright scary how many. Even those I didn't think were sheep...

Not exactly this scenario... but this meme explains their mentality well..

 

[printcraft]

 

[phylodog]

The media blitz was very effective at demonizing Trump but I think there’s a pretty big difference between hating Trump and going along with what is happening. I believe part of the media’s blitz was an effort to convince everyone that the woke population was significantly larger than it was/is. I have no proof so I won’t be entertaining the typical challengers along those lines but it is what I believe has happened.

Overall Americans are pretty content, even the vocal whiny asses will STFU and go home when it gets dark out or it’s time for dinner. Once that begins to change people won’t be as quick to ignore what’s happening. When we get to that point I think the reality will become apparent and “they” are gonna have a fight on their hands.

 

[foszoe]

The media blitz was very effective at demonizing Trump but I think there’s a pretty big difference between hating Trump and going along with what is happening. I believe part of the media’s blitz was an effort to convince everyone that the woke population was significantly larger than it was/is. I have no proof so I won’t be entertaining the typical challengers along those lines but it is what I believe has happened.

Overall Americans are pretty content, even the vocal whiny asses will STFU and go home when it gets dark out or it’s time for dinner. Once that begins to change people won’t be as quick to ignore what’s happening. When we get to that point I think the reality will become apparent and “they” are gonna have a fight on their hands.

I think along the same lines....that's probably not much reassurance.

 

[Tombs]

Just hope there’s enough of us.




Past 2 years showed me there’s a lot more sheep than I realized

You ever seen a zombie movie?

I'd wager that's probably the ratio of people that care/understand/will fight, to the sheep.
If they don't recognize the signs and symbols by now, there's no hope.

Also, good luck to you vaccinated folks, I wish you the best.

Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of SARS-CoV-2 Infection Is Mediated by the IgG Receptors FcγRIIA and FcγRIIIA but Does Not Contribute to Aberrant Cytokine Production by Macrophages | mBio

Viruses infect cells mainly via specific receptors at the cell surface. Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of infection is an alternative mechanism of infection for viruses to infect immune cells that is mediated by antibodies and IgG receptors (FcγRs).

journals.asm.org

If you wish to understand ADE further: https://www.chop.edu/centers-progra...y/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-vaccines

Clinical Trial Phases: What Happens in Phase 0, I, II, III, and IV

Every wonder how new medical treatments are evaluated for safety? Most go through a multiphase clinical trial. Learn what happens during each phase.

www.healthline.com

Funny that, when you skip routine trials and testing for a new medication, intended to prevent problems like this, you develop these kinds of problems. Lessoned learned with blood shouldn't be forgotten.

 

[Alpo]

Clinical Trial Phases: What Happens in Phase 0, I, II, III, and IV

Every wonder how new medical treatments are evaluated for safety? Most go through a multiphase clinical trial. Learn what happens during each phase.

www.healthline.com

Funny that, when you skip routine trials and testing for a new medication, intended to prevent problems like this, you develop these kinds of problems. Lessoned learned with blood shouldn't be forgotten.

Alex Jones is drinking too much. Perhaps you could replace him. The article DOES NOT say what you interpret it to say. More than once, the author says:

Following the experience with dengue vaccine, early during the COVID-19 pandemic, concerns about ADE were top of mind. During this time, a few scientists tried to predict whether ADE would occur by evaluating genes for similarities and differences. While this was a useful approach at a time when we did not have much information about what might happen in people, we have since accumulated several lines of clinical evidence that confirm ADE is not an issue for COVID-19 or the vaccines:

 

[jamil]

Because as a Christian I care more about doing what is righteous than doing what is selfish.

Why do you think you care more about righteousness than they do? Isn’t that judgmental? Isn’t that what self-righteousness is? Why is it selfish? Explain that please.

 

[foszoe]

You ever seen a zombie movie?

I'd wager that's probably the ratio of people that care/understand/will fight, to the sheep.
If they don't recognize the signs and symbols by now, there's no hope.

Also, good luck to you vaccinated folks, I wish you the best.

Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of SARS-CoV-2 Infection Is Mediated by the IgG Receptors FcγRIIA and FcγRIIIA but Does Not Contribute to Aberrant Cytokine Production by Macrophages | mBio

Viruses infect cells mainly via specific receptors at the cell surface. Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of infection is an alternative mechanism of infection for viruses to infect immune cells that is mediated by antibodies and IgG receptors (FcγRs).

journals.asm.org

If you wish to understand ADE further: https://www.chop.edu/centers-progra...y/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-vaccines

Clinical Trial Phases: What Happens in Phase 0, I, II, III, and IV

Every wonder how new medical treatments are evaluated for safety? Most go through a multiphase clinical trial. Learn what happens during each phase.

www.healthline.com

Funny that, when you skip routine trials and testing for a new medication, intended to prevent problems like this, you develop these kinds of problems. Lessoned learned with blood shouldn't be forgotten.

I don't and never have claimed to understand all the medical mumbo jumbo, but the study you cited doesn't seem to be a study that supports your conclusion. I searched the entire study using your provided link for vaccine and there were 13 instances all in the Intro. In fact that study seemed to be in relation to antibodies after having Covid not after be vaccinated.

So I then looked at your cited statement which referenced 2 studies. ref 27 did not contain the word vaccine at all. So it too seemed to be referencing antibodies after having Covid not after being vaccinated.

Ref 28 seems to be the support for your claim. In Ref 28, I found the following quote:

In conclusion, ADE may occur in people receiving vaccines based on the original Wuhan strain spike sequence (either mRNA or viral vectors) and then exposed to a Delta variant. Although this potential risk has been cleverly anticipated before the massive use of Covid-19 vaccines. 6
, the ability of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies to mediate infection enhancement in vivo has never been formally demonstrated. However, although the results obtained so far have been rather reassuring. 1
, to the best of our knowledge ADE of Delta variants has not been specifically assessed. Since our data indicate that Delta variants are especially well recognized by infection enhancing antibodies targeting the NTD, the possibility of ADE should be further investigated as it may represent a potential risk for mass vaccination during the current Delta variant pandemic. In this respect, second generation vaccines
7. with spike protein formulations lacking structurally-conserved ADE-related epitopes should be considered.

Ref 28 didn't seem quite as severe as your commentary statement.

Here is a link to Ref 28 if you want to cite a specific statement that should generate overwhelming concern.

https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext

Ref 28 had a Ref 1 which would seem to also address your concerns. It really didn't seem to be a study of vaccines but rather of a potential concern with vaccines and using antibodies as an alternate treatment.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0321-6

 

[JCSR]

Everybody join in !

 

[NKBJ]

It would have been nice to have some expectations that a majority of Americans would say no to the great reset. But I didn't. It would be nice to have expectations that Americans who think of themselves as Christian would recognize the reset for what it is and say no. I don't.
I expect them to avert their eyes, dissuade others, to actually convince themselves to give credence to the excuses they make for their compliance. And when the time comes, to turn on and turn in whoever does not comply.

 

[BigRed]

Everybody join in !

There may be a flicker of hope for Nashville after all!

 

[BigRed]

Why do you think you care more about righteousness than they do? Isn’t that judgmental? Isn’t that what self-righteousness is? Why is it selfish? Explain that please.

Welcome back.

 

[jamil]

Welcome back.

I don't really feel like i left really. Just have other priorities these days. But thanks!

 

[BigRed]

I don't really feel like i left really. Just have other priorities these days. But thanks!

I noticed you were out when I didn't see posts hitting the 1000 word minimum....just kidding....LOL

Was hoping nothing bad had happened....good to hear otherwise.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I noticed you were out when I didn't see posts hitting the 1000 word minimum....just kidding....LOL

Was hoping nothing bad had happened....good to hear otherwise.

I really thought jamil would have a lot of pent-up words after being away so long!