Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[BigRed]

Not to worry. Probably soon our smart phones will have a covid app communicating to our social scores.

And Mr. Faraday responds with "To **** with those mother ******."

 

[jsharmon7]

I think the biggest problem with this mandate is the finger wagging “you will comply” aspect. If the goal is compliance, why not use incentives? Maybe another round of stimulus checks for only the vaccinated? Or maybe take away access to federal benefits, loans, subsidies, etc.? This whole thing screams of authoritarianism more than a sincere hope for compliance.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Your parents consented for you, just like they did with nearly every other thing that happened to you at that age. We're your parent's jobs threatened if you weren't vaccinated?

I was just making a point that he's comparing apples and oranges...

 

[wtburnette]

I think the biggest problem with this mandate is the finger wagging “you will comply” aspect. If the goal is compliance, why not use incentives? Maybe another round of stimulus checks for only the vaccinated? Or maybe take away access to federal benefits, loans, subsidies, etc.? This whole thing screams of authoritarianism more than a sincere hope for compliance.

The only thing that would incentivize me is the government providing a realistic reason why I would want to get vaccinated, when I'm not in the target group to worry about the disease and my not getting it doesn't affect anyone but myself. They would have to stop their campaign of censoring information and get social media and the media to do the same. At that point I might consider getting the jab, but probably still wouldn't as again, I'm not in the target group to worry about it.

 

[jsharmon7]

The only thing that would incentivize me is the government providing a realistic reason why I would want to get vaccinated, when I'm not in the target group to worry about the disease and my not getting it doesn't affect anyone but myself. They would have to stop their campaign of censoring information and get social media and the media to do the same. At that point I might consider getting the jab, but probably still wouldn't as again, I'm not in the target group to worry about it.

You and I are on the same page. My point was this doesn’t feel like a legitimate attempt at public health. It’s authoritarianism disguised as concern. If they really thought this was necessary then there are much more effective ways of getting there. So if it doesn’t appear to be a good faith goal, what is it? Is it Biden’s way of sticking it to conservatives?

 

[wtburnette]

You and I are on the same page. My point was this doesn’t feel like a legitimate attempt at public health. It’s authoritarianism disguised as concern. If they really thought this was necessary then there are much more effective ways of getting there. So if it doesn’t appear to be a good faith goal, what is it? Is it Biden’s way of sticking it to conservatives?

Correct and yes, it is exactly that. A way for the Bidiot to point at another group to draw ire away from his failures. College kids, indoctrinated since elementary school to love socialism, are starting to chant F Joe Biden at football games and other events. I'm pretty sure they understand that the peasants are about fed up and they need to redirect that anger to each other, similar to the whole racism boondoggle.

 

[buckwacker]

You and I are on the same page. My point was this doesn’t feel like a legitimate attempt at public health. It’s authoritarianism disguised as concern. If they really thought this was necessary then there are much more effective ways of getting there. So if it doesn’t appear to be a good faith goal, what is it? Is it Biden’s way of sticking it to conservatives?

Everybody knows, whether they admit it or not, something has been really off with the whole covid thing and everything else frankly. I don't know what it is exactly but something is off. Great reset, deep state, pop control, pending alien invasion, lol don't know, but sumpin ain't right

 

[KLB]

Everybody knows, whether they admit it or not, something has been really off with the whole covid thing and everything else frankly. I don't know what it is exactly but something is off. Great reset, deep state, pop control, pending alien invasion, lol don't know, but sumpin ain't right

The odd thing is how so many countries are basically playing follow the leader with this .

The Western "Democracies" are basically marching towards totalitarianism one after another.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

pending alien invasion

Maybe the vaccinations are just meat injections to make us tender for them.


I, for one, will NOT be tenderized!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Maybe the vaccinations are just meat injections to make us tender for them.


I, for one, will NOT be tenderized!

"To Serve Man"

To Serve Man (The Twilight Zone) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[buckwacker]

Maybe the vaccinations are just meat injections to make us tender for them.


I, for one, will NOT be tenderized!

It's a flavorizer lol.

 

[Expat]

Basting needle

 

[Keith_Indy]

Maybe the vaccinations are just meat injections to make us tender for them.


I, for one, will NOT be tenderized!

Alternatively, the elites have been promised cool new toys and extended life, if they can identify people likely to try to overthrow the alien over-masters.

See, those people over there, they wouldn't comply, go after them first.

 

[phylodog]

I think the biggest problem with this mandate is the finger wagging “you will comply” aspect. If the goal is compliance, why not use incentives? Maybe another round of stimulus checks for only the vaccinated? Or maybe take away access to federal benefits, loans, subsidies, etc.? This whole thing screams of authoritarianism more than a sincere hope for compliance.

I'd prefer for them to simply be honest about the situation and provide a logical explanation as to why it is so critical that those with so little chance of getting seriously ill should sign up for a jab surrounded by so much obvious misinformation.

Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.
Maybe it works better for some people than others, maybe not.
Maybe it will have long term negative side effects, maybe it won't.
Maybe there is a legitimate reason for the completely unnatural push for 100% compliance, maybe there isn't.
Maybe the elites who are regularly seen violating the mask mandates they feel so necessary are simply more immune than everyone else due to their status, maybe they aren't.

 

[phylodog]

Works for this thread too.

 

[jedi]

The world wide

The odd thing is how so many countries are basically playing follow the leader with this .

The Western "Democracies" are basically marching towards totalitarianism one after another.

Monkey see, monkey do.
They are human after all and at the core just as corrupt and evil as us on this side of the pond.

 

[STAGE 2]

You mean that polio vaccine that most of us got before we could consent?

You’ve illustrated my point. Parents haven’t balked at the polio vaccine because the disease was a legitimate threat and the vaccine was demonstrated to be effective. The severity of COVID among healthy youth and adults is questionable and the efficacy of the vaccines is as well.

 

[Lex Concord]

It's a flavorizer lol.

Explains the micro-ink tattoos secretly included with the vax... they have to meet FDA labeling requirements.

 

[Keith_Indy]

You’ve illustrated my point. Parents haven’t balked at the polio vaccine because the disease was a legitimate threat and the vaccine was demonstrated to be effective. The severity of COVID among healthy youth and adults is questionable and the efficacy of the vaccines is as well.

Most parents don’t balk at the polio vaccine anymore, is a more correct summation. There was hesitancy and missteps at the beginning of that campaign.

And, could it be because that particular vaccine would be eligible for AARP membership, while the COVID vaxx is still in diapers learning to crawl.

Apples and oranges.

in case, people didn’t read the article I linked to.

Immediately following the government’s licensing of the Salk vaccine, the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis contracted with private drug companies for US$9 million worth of vaccine (around $87 million today) – about 90% of the stock. They planned to provide it free to the country’s first and second graders. But just two weeks after the first doses were administered, the Public Health Service reported that six inoculated children had come down with polio.

As the number of such incidents grew, it became clear that some of the shots were causing the disease they were meant to prevent. A single lab had inadvertently released adulterated doses.

After considerable fumbling and outright denial, Surgeon General Leonard Steele first pulled all tainted vaccine off the market. Then, less than a month after the initial inoculations, the U.S. shut down distribution entirely. It wasn’t until the introduction of a new polio vaccine in 1960, created by Albert Sabin, that public trust returned.

 

[wtburnette]

May be apples and oranges, but the polio vaccine was for something that was a huge concern, not an overblown flu epidemic.