Politically Motivated Violence Thread PART 2

[foszoe]

When you critique what I say, I will take note. In this instance, its your interpretation of what I said that you are critiquing. Concerning INGO and right leaning commentary, I stand by my statement, Drudgereport and GP are influential. that is entirely independent of whether or not they are a news source.

One is a blog, one is an aggregator.

Real Clear, WSJ, probably Washington Examiner or Newsmax. The pickings are slim these days

And you shouldn't complain about a BLOG being a source of news when you were citing the Drdgereport as influential. Plus, I am not complicit in the torpedoing of journalistic standards and credibility - I'm just left to negotiate the wreck-filled harbor that was the result

 

[BugI02]

Facts exist outside our experience.

Can experience exist outside of facts?

 

[JettaKnight]

Can experience exist outside of facts?

There is no spoon.

 

[foszoe]

Whoa!

I gotta go cook lamb.

Can experience exist outside of facts?

 

[BugI02]

When you critique what I say, I will take note. In this instance, its your interpretation of what I said that you are critiquing. Concerning INGO and right leaning commentary, I stand by my statement, Drudgereport and GP are influential. that is entirely independent of whether or not they are a news source.

One is a blog, one is an aggregator.

Half right. Real Clear also initiates news and opinion pieces itself as well as allows me to peruse more than just politics (as any good news source would) via the World, Markets, Defense, Energy, Health and Science subheadings

I'm uncertain which of the third possibilities you object (most) to and why. Perhaps you should go beyond just the opening page of either website by clicking 'news' in the tool bar of that page. You can then read the hard news and even check out the specs on the reporters at places such as muck rake

If the objection is they are not 'influential enough' that to me is specious. NYT and WaPo have been coasting on their laurels for a long time, their influence is more of a habit than a reasoned decision and such influence is shrinking all the time and will not recover. They are some of the worst offenders for use of loaded words and biased writing, such that I might be unable to read a story about something factual like a refinery or chemical plant fire without them dragging climate change or green new deal elements into it and their science reporting is awful

Edit: Are you saying an aggregator cannot serve as a source of news because it is not slavishly devoted to one source?

 

[MCgrease08]

There is no spoon.

[video=youtube_share;IA1gNwQftsM]http://youtu.be/IA1gNwQftsM[/video]

 

[buckwacker]

So I do my best to get news from multiple different sources claiming to do news not commentary, not opinion, not analysis. You will see me post from multiple different news sources because I don't want to rely on one or 2.

Operative word here. There are no such sources, journalism is dead. It's all just propaganda now.

 

[BugI02]

When you critique what I say, I will take note. In this instance, its your interpretation of what I said that you are critiquing. Concerning INGO and right leaning commentary, I stand by my statement, Drudgereport and GP are influential. that is entirely independent of whether or not they are a news source.

One is a blog, one is an aggregator.

Lolz, how can that ever not be true

 

[foszoe]

I am addressing only DR and GP since that was what I included in my/our original posts.

I am talking only about clicking and reviewing links in DR, an aggregator, and GP, a blog.

When I say they are influential, I am saying that the majority of what I will hear when I turn on our local talk radio station here, WIBC, if they are commenting on a national news story and you read the DR in the morning there is a high correlation between the two. When I visit INGO there used to be a very high correlation between what I would see discussed here. Now we had a member, GPIARQWERTY, who was like our news breaker and he would throw out things from different sources, but now, its mostly INGOMike with GP or DR related posts. Now I ain't trying to be comprehensive. Several members post video blogs (vlogs?) which I seldom watch, and links to other sites too, sure, but none are as prolific as Mike with the GP and GP was with the current event cycle. If a word fits that description better than influential let me know, I'll use it.

If that doesn't make it clear enough I am gonna chalk it up to you are still depressed over PU beating OSU in BBall last night.

Half right. Real Clear also initiates news and opinion pieces itself as well as allows me to peruse more than just politics (as any good news source would) via the World, Markets, Defense, Energy, Health and Science subheadings

I'm uncertain which of the third possibilities you object (most) to and why. Perhaps you should go beyond just the opening page of either website by clicking 'news' in the tool bar of that page. You can then read the hard news and even check out the specs on the reporters at places such as muck rake

If the objection is they are not 'influential enough' that to me is specious. NYT and WaPo have been coasting on their laurels for a long time, their influence is more of a habit than a reasoned decision and such influence is shrinking all the time and will not recover. They are some of the worst offenders for use of loaded words and biased writing, such that I might be unable to read a story about something factual like a refinery or chemical plant fire without them dragging climate change or green new deal elements into it and their science reporting is awful

Edit: Are you saying an aggregator cannot serve as a source of news because it is not slavishly devoted to one source?

 

[printcraft]

[video=youtube_share;IA1gNwQftsM]http://youtu.be/IA1gNwQftsM[/video]

Can we cancel eddie murphy for whiteface?

 

[foszoe]

I try not to lie. Sometimes it seems like you read what I say then ask yourself the question how can I interpret this to not mean what he said so we can talk back and forth

Lolz, how can that ever not be true

 

[BugI02]

I am addressing only DR and GP since that was what I included in my/our original posts.

I am talking only about clicking and reviewing links in DR, an aggregator, and GP, a blog.

When I say they are influential, I am saying that the majority of what I will hear when I turn on our local talk radio station here, WIBC, if they are commenting on a national news story and you read the DR in the morning there is a high correlation between the two. When I visit INGO there used to be a very high correlation between what I would see discussed here. Now we had a member, GPIARQWERTY, who was like our news breaker and he would throw out things from different sources, but now, its mostly INGOMike with GP or DR related posts. Now I ain't trying to be comprehensive. Several members post video blogs (vlogs?) which I seldom watch, and links to other sites too, sure, but none are as prolific as Mike with the GP and GP was with the current event cycle. If a word fits that description better than influential let me know, I'll use it.

If that doesn't make it clear enough I am gonna chalk it up to you are still depressed over PU beating OSU in BBall last night.

I guess I can't begin to know what you are talking about, which makes two of us

 

[BugI02]

I try not to lie. Sometimes it seems like you read what I say then ask yourself the question how can I interpret this to not mean what he said so we can talk back and forth

I must apologize for somehow giving you the erroneous impression that I find any shred of enjoyment in that back and forth

 

[jamil]

Not sure if you mean me as the someone or you,

I post from a lot of places....but the NYT or WaPo are way down on the list.

It used to be that every discussion could be traced directly back to the Drudgereport. If one read or skimmed it, one would know by 6 am what all the talk radio stations would be talking about. What all the threads in the news/political forums would be about. Now it seems the Gateway Pundit and Drudge cover most of the bases. I have posted why before so no need to be curious why I continually call the Gateway Pundit into question as a source for news.

1. Too many times the headline is way off from the content. That is a common news tactic sure, but the GP is over the top compared to others on a consistent basis.
2. Its a BLOG.
3. While the MSM deserves a lot and I mean a lot of criticism, I see a lot of misdirected criticism.

There is a difference between news and commentary, and I hold them to 2 different standards. I expect commentary to be slanted, so when I read pieces that Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Rachel Maddow, Cuomo are biased, I am like well yeah its commentary.

So I do my best to get news from multiple different sources claiming to do news not commentary, not opinion, not analysis. You will see me post from multiple different news sources because I don't want to rely on one or 2.

If you had 3 news sources to read what would your choices be?

Drudge? Who reads Drudge anymore?

 

[bwframe]

Howley says Antifa scum threatened his family at home in the District of Columbia

verietyinfo.com

 

[bwframe]

Howley says Antifa scum threatened his family at home in the District of Columbia

verietyinfo.com

 

[MCgrease08]

Report: Portland Democrat Mayor Ted Wheeler Assaulted at Restaurant

Ted Wheeler (D) was confronted and assaulted by a group of protesters Wednesday evening while he dined at a restaurant, according to police.

www.breitbart.com

 

[buckwacker]

Report: Portland Democrat Mayor Ted Wheeler Assaulted at Restaurant

Ted Wheeler (D) was confronted and assaulted by a group of protesters Wednesday evening while he dined at a restaurant, according to police.

www.breitbart.com

Is it wrong that this makes me smile a little?

 

[foszoe]

Is it wrong that this makes me smile a little?

No

 

[MCgrease08]

Is it wrong that this makes me smile a little?

Well the mayor probably should read Galations 6.