The context of the initial post was interesting to me.
Recently I have had a number of individuals who currently do not own and have never owned any firearms ask me "What should I do, what should I get?"
These people are just starting to realize that they might have to protect themselves and their families.
I was hoping to find a way to answer their question.
For myself, I have made my decision and am going to have to live with it, however what is right for me might not be right for them.
I got some new ideas for myself. Lots of info here, but, I did not find an answer to the initial question asked.
Where and what do they start with?
A $4000 battle rifle with suppressor is not a starting point and is beyond most peoples means.
This is the question and it is very real right now these days. I have been wondering what the best answer is. I knew there would be strong opinions and I thought this would grow legs because it is centered on gear and INGO loves to talk about gear, which is fine. It is also about how to get the person the most proficient in a short amount of time with the chosen gear.
We may or may not be on the cusp of a civil war or vast civil unrest. For the person who has no shooting skills is PCC the way to go? Why or why not?
With the idea of getting a person with no training as prepared as possible for defending themselves and their family as fast as possible.
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Depending on the individual and situation, yes, a pistol-caliber-carbine would probably be the right way to go.
For my wife, who is not a handgun fan, but does prefer a Beretta pistol (she has an older 92FS), I recently picked up a CX-4 9mm for her.
The CX-4 takes the Beretta 92 magazines, so it's much more simple for her to be using just one style magazine, and she likes it.
Sometimes, just keeping things simple is the best method...as it eliminates confusion, which can be a bad thing in a stressful situation.
Depending on the individual and situation, yes, a pistol-caliber-carbine would probably be the right way to go.
For my wife, who is not a handgun fan, but does prefer a Beretta pistol (she has an older 92FS), I recently picked up a CX-4 9mm for her.
The CX-4 takes the Beretta 92 magazines, so it's much more simple for her to be using just one style magazine, and she likes it.
Sometimes, just keeping things simple is the best method...as it eliminates confusion, which can be a bad thing in a stressful situation.
The Beretta 92 and CX4 is a great combination. I really, really like the pistol style controls on the CX4.
Sierra Papa’s upgrades are awesome, makes the CX4 even better to shoot, and more reliable.
The context of the initial post was interesting to me.
Recently I have had a number of individuals who currently do not own and have never owned any firearms ask me "What should I do, what should I get?"
These people are just starting to realize that they might have to protect themselves and their families.
I was hoping to find a way to answer their question.
For myself, I have made my decision and am going to have to live with it, however what is right for me might not be right for them.
I got some new ideas for myself. Lots of info here, but, I did not find an answer to the initial question asked.
Where and what do they start with?
A $4000 battle rifle with suppressor is not a starting point and is beyond most peoples means.
I'll 2nd that. I had 2 CX4s in .40cal over the years and both had the full Sierra Papa set of goodies. It's a good gun out of the box, but with the Sierra Papa upgrades it's amazing.
It's enough to make you briefly forget how incredibly ugly a gun it is.
I actually like the way mine looks. Been thinking about painting it white to get the stormtrooper effect I like the way mine shoots too, and love that it eats all kinds of ammo in any conditions. But now to take a look at Sierra Papa upgrades...
If you like it now with that awful polymer trigger group and the terrible paper thin polymer buffer, wait until you drop in a polished all metal trigger group and a delrin buffer. Replace everything polymer that's inside the gun and you'll be amazed how much smoother it runs.
A stormtrooper paint job would be really cool I think. If you do that, definitely post pics.
The trigger on mine isn't great, but not so bad that I'll spend almost $200 improving it. Not that I don't believe it was a worthy upgrade for you or anyone else -- I'm reading on Beretta forums and Sierra Papa's website that the triggers vary from carbine to carbine, so maybe mine isn't as atrocious as yours was. Have the website bookmarked now though if I ever feel like splurging or have any issues with the stock parts, I appreciate you pointing it out.
And I've been toying with the idea of the white paint job for awhile... resale value be damned. Certainly would post some pics here if I ever decide to do it. I think it would be a hit especially with new shooters.