Uvalde Texas Killing

[bwframe]

...Whoever left that door unlocked belongs at the top of the list people who are partially culpable.

The outside door, as well as the classroom door. (The door that the tactical team was brought in to breach, wasting critical time.)

That is just the fatal example of the nonchalance the school's whole security policy is regarded and treated. All the policy and rules and laws are only are good as someone practicing them. Lowest common denominator...

There are so so so many things that could have been done to train everyone on school staff to default to good security practices.


Makes one wonder about our own schools? Are ALL staff serious about practicing security? Are there fail safes in place to protect against the ignorant?


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[BigRed]

At least you have evidence for that.

Stay tuned and watch closely!

 

[Keith_Indy]

Well, there ought to be an organization toughening men up. Reality will sort much of that out in the near future.

Without looking like a "evil" militia or neo-fascist group...

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Per the press conference they didn’t believe after the initial shooting that anyone was alive in that classroom.

So they wrote those kids off as dead.

I deleted what I wrote. It was an error to type while mad.

I am appalled at what law enforcement is saying right now. I need a break, perhaps a long one.

 

[JCSR]

Police were on scene when the shooter was still in the parking lot and failed to secure the building or locate and engage the shooter. He fired around 20 rounds at the funeral home nearby. I see no excuse for this failure.

 

[Creedmoor]

Its available to those who make the cut.

Well, there ought to be an organization toughening men up.

MCRD San Diego or MCRD Parris Island.

 

[rooster]

FYI: watching this isn’t going to make anyone less upset or angry.

 

[Expat]

Apparently one little girl in there, called 911 4-5 times asking for help. That just breaks your heart.

 

[actaeon277]

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He keeps claiming shooting went down during the Clinton AWB, and that after it lapsed, went back up.

Except, NO SUCH THING HAPPENED.
People need to call him out on it.

 

[actaeon277]

Wouldn't it be nice if Moms Demand Action taught first, gun safety, self defense and household defense.

What's needed is an organization that up levels mama bears...

There are.
But.. the media won't talk about them.

 

[Ark]

The outside door, as well as the classroom door. (The door that the tactical team was brought in to breach, wasting critical time.)

That is just the fatal example of the nonchalance the school's whole security policy is regarded and treated. All the policy and rules and laws are only are good as someone practicing them. Lowest common denominator...

There are so so so many things that could have been done to train everyone on school staff to default to good security practices.


Makes one wonder about our own schools? Are ALL staff serious about practicing security? Are there fail safes in place to protect against the ignorant?


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Yup. Somebody didn't want to be inconvenienced on their smoke break or whatever. Figured nothing would ever happen here. 19 kids died as a result.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

 

[rooster]

Quick recap of current information and the operational questions this info raises.

911 calls from inside classroom started at 12:03

On scene commander made the determination that it was a barricaded suspect and no lives were at risk , ie. Everyone was dead.

Calls continued to come in from children and teachers until 12:51 when the door was breached.

During that time shots were fired allegedly all through the door but shots were indeed being fired.


3 Cbp tac officers were in the initial stack of 19 officers that were ordered to stand down by on scene commander.

At some point the suspect left and then re entered the room. No actual time given

Did dispatch relay the calls to the on scene commander?

Did he leave the room and no one was watching?

 

[PRasko]

Dunno if this has been posted yet or not but here's this gem...

Salvador Ramos Arrested 4 Years Ago for Planning Attack at 18—Texas Rep.

Texas Rep. Tony Gonzales claimed the Uvalde shooter had been arrested for planning a school shooting once he turned 18.

www.newsweek.com

 

[rooster]

Leading up to event recap of presser:

Asked sister to help him get a gun in 2021, so said no

Had Facebook messenger/ maybe Instagram chats with several people regarding planning a shooting over a extended course of time.

Had (I don’t remember exact number) close to 60 magazines loaded. 15 were on scene school property. Had somewhere in the range of 1k rounds total


A teacher propped the door open , saw him shooting and ran inside for a phone leaving the door open.

Sro wasn’t on property, do not currently know where he was. Heard 911 calls of shooting outside of the school come on radio and he actually drove past the suspect and went to the wrong side of the school.

 

[rooster]

Dunno if this has been posted yet or not but here's this gem...

Salvador Ramos Arrested 4 Years Ago for Planning Attack at 18—Texas Rep.

Texas Rep. Tony Gonzales claimed the Uvalde shooter had been arrested for planning a school shooting once he turned 18.

www.newsweek.com

Texas DPS is refuting that and saying it was two different people.

 

[PRasko]

Texas DPS is refuting that and saying it was two different people.

Seems like a CYA moment tbh.

 

[jdeanp]

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Beat me to posting that one.

 

[BigRed]

Seems like a CYA moment tbh.

Time will tell.

Further, if not the same psycho thug, where is the other psycho thug now?

 

[Ingomike]

The person giving the press conference could not account for where the school resource officer who was supposed to be on campus was.

This is strictly a figment of my imagination: Joe the SRO leaves early one day a week to pick up his daughter as his wife works that day and everyone loves Joe and looks the other way…