Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[Brad69]

Yeah Bug the Russians love there E tools.

 

[miguel]

Not sure if anyone's seen this? If so, enjoy....

 

[DadSmith]

How do we know that the people calling out people who put out disinformation aren't themselves putting out disinformation?

 

[ghuns]

So there's this 40 mile long Russian convoy that's supposedly out of fuel and food that's just camping out in the Ukrainian countryside.

I take that to mean Russia has 100% control of the airspace. I also have to assume Ukrainian artillery ain't nothin to write home about.

For a country of that size, with a not so small military I kinda expected more. Even with a handful of drones they could make Saddam's Highway of Death look like the Yellow Brick Road.

 

[Kurr]

King Steve...I like it!

As opposed to Steve King??

 

[Shadow01]

The power of propaganda!

So is the left half of the picture
1. Real Ukrainian soldiers that were captured.
2. Real Ukrainian soldiers pretending to be Russian soldiers for the propaganda.
3. Real Russian soldiers that were capture.
4. Real Russian soldiers pretending to be Ukrainian soldiers for fake news propaganda to discredit Ukraine.
5. Someone pretending to be soldiers and the picture leaked out and has been used by several to meet their own twisted agenda.
6. None of the above/all of the above.

 

[Kurr]

 

[Jaybird1980]

Could be very ugly if they go scorched earth.

Putin will escalate to 'scorched earth' campaign in the next 48-hours: expert

The former commanding general of the United States Army in Europe warned that Russian strongman Vladimir Putin will expand his targeting of civilians after suffering military defeats in Ukraine.CNN's Brianna Keilar on Tuesday interviewed retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling as Putin's troops continued...

www.rawstory.com

Could be some truth to scorched earth. Now Russia is warning people to leave.

Anyone with half of a working brain cell knew this was coming.

 

[printcraft]

Not sure if anyone's seen this? If so, enjoy....

Ok, I'm starting to see putin's point here...

 

[Shadow01]

Anyone with half of a working brain cell knew this was coming.

So what happens when the majority decide to stay and become martyrs?

 

[Kurr]

Hes is mad, frustrated, cut off from the rest of the world financially, and the ICC has started investigations into war crimes and crimes against humanity, and his own people are against him, oligarchs may soon have him... perma sleeped.

What does he have to lose? He seems to be coming up quick on a "go or blow" moment

 

[KittySlayer]

Yeah, no shovels in the confiscated weapons

I carry one of those shovels in my truck. Just in case I need to plant it on captured enemies like a cop planting a gun for evidence.

They are impressive shovels. We were camping in a remote location and my wife needed to poop. She was impressed when I grabbed my shovel and had a cat hole for her in one scoop.

Don't forget to order the sheath too.

https://www.knifecenter.com/item/CS92SF/cold-steel-92sf-special-forces-shovel-no-sheath

 

[22LRFan]

So there's this 40 mile long Russian convoy that's supposedly out of fuel and food that's just camping out in the Ukrainian countryside.

I take that to mean Russia has 100% control of the airspace. I also have to assume Ukrainian artillery ain't nothin to write home about.

For a country of that size, with a not so small military I kinda expected more. Even with a handful of drones they could make Saddam's Highway of Death look like the Yellow Brick Road.

I believe its 40 miles away and only 3 or 4 miles long. Regardless, I agree with everything you said. Seems like easy targets to me. When is the tipping point to where Ukraine could start looking at possibly winning this war, or at least turn back the Russians? If the Russian war machine can't supply the machine, then what?

 

[BugI02]

Could be some truth to scorched earth. Now Russia is warning people to leave.

The claims that 'targets will be precisely struck' but that people living nearby need to leave would seem to be at odds

I guess they have different criterium for 'precision'

 

[Jaybird1980]

So what happens when the majority decide to stay and become martyrs?

They die.

 

[KG1]

Not sure if anyone's seen this? If so, enjoy....

I think Zelensky should recreate that dance the next time he stands in front of the Capital and gives an update. " I'm still here. Come and get me bitches!"

 

[BugI02]

How do we know that the people calling out people who put out disinformation aren't themselves putting out disinformation?

We don't and won't until so far after the fact that 'At [that] point, what difference does it make'

Anyone claiming to know what's REALLY going on - including me - should be disregarded

So should the people claiming they don't know enough to make an informed decision, they never will within any time frame that matters. A seat on the fence looks like it should be more uncomfortable than it is

 

[Redhorse]

I'm really surprised by the number of people who thinks this isn't real, is being over exaggerated, or some sort of messed up conspiracy. I know a lot of you don't trust our news sources but the First Amendment is still in effect and I doubt the whole world would participate in some big lie just to dupe insignificant Americans. I'm sorry y'all but us civilians are just not that important lol

Something is seriously messed up in ole Mother Russia right now and showing the world their rear ends to the whole world (how does a major world power not have enough food and fuel for one of its best armies?). What doesn't make sense is the lack of guerrilla warfare against that convey. Morale is low enough that I'd say many Russian troops would just give up. If the Ukrainians hit a handful of their vehicles that have woods on both sides, they'd at least slow down the Russian advance. I imagine the Russian anti-air defenses are what's keeping the Ukrainian Air Force at bay. Their Air Force is small enough as is; I'd be hard pressed to risk losing pilots in that position.

 

[idkfa]

How do we know that the people calling out people who put out disinformation aren't themselves putting out disinformation?

We don't, indeed -- unless they point out explicit inconsistencies and/or provide verifiable proofs.
E.g.,

• proofs that pictures were taken years ago,
• that a combat video is from a videogame,
• the absence or presence of certain markings,
• issues with the battle formation or layout (closed reticles, loose hair, brand-new uniforms, burnt mannequins, etc.),
• problems with physics of the encounters and alleged consequences (such as a GRAD missile strike that doesn't sound like an explosion 200 yards away and doesn't produce craters).

 

[BugI02]

So there's this 40 mile long Russian convoy that's supposedly out of fuel and food that's just camping out in the Ukrainian countryside.

I take that to mean Russia has 100% control of the airspace. I also have to assume Ukrainian artillery ain't nothin to write home about.

For a country of that size, with a not so small military I kinda expected more. Even with a handful of drones they could make Saddam's Highway of Death look like the Yellow Brick Road.

The thought has occurred to me of a honey-trap for all those javelins and NLAWs, but not aware of the dismounted troops they would need in the area to take advantage as well as the question of why they are bothering to transport the equipment if they don't need it