Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

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    nra4ever

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    So reports coming in since last night that Ukraine shelled areas around dombass region. today crimean area returned fire. Russians have asked the US to stay out of the conflict. Could get very ugly. Surprisingly nothing on the news about it.
     
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    So reports coming in since last night that Ukraine shelled areas around dombass region. today crimean area returned fire. Russian have asked the US to stay out of the conflict. Could get very ugly. Surprisingly nothing on the news about it.
    Well Ukraine does still consider Crimean theirs ever since Russia moved in in 2014. There was a recent cease fire, but it sounds like that is over.

    It'll give Biden another reason to shift the focus from China to Russia
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Well Ukraine does still consider Crimean theirs ever since Russia moved in in 2014. There was a recent cease fire, but it sounds like that is over.

    It'll give Biden another reason to shift the focus from China to Russia
    This is a very old argument. While unemployed after the Revolution, John Paul Jones worked for Imperial Russia toward securing Russia's grasp on Crimea from Turkish attempts to take control.
     

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    So reports coming in since last night that Ukraine shelled areas around dombass region. today crimean area returned fire. Russians have asked the US to stay out of the conflict. Could get very ugly. Surprisingly nothing on the news about it.


    It will be that which those folks there decide.

    You will not hear much about it on the tell a vision news....to many more important things going on.

    -Folks that cannot tell if they are a boy or a girl need a bit more coddling

    -Stripping firearms

    -Stay idle and wear a mask
     

    T.Lex

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    Ah - didn't see this thread earlier, when I posted in the WWIII thread.

    Yeah, this could get bumpy. Again.
     

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    This is a very old argument. While unemployed after the Revolution, John Paul Jones worked for Imperial Russia toward securing Russia's grasp on Crimea from Turkish attempts to take control.

    "Forward, the Light Brigade!"
    Was there a man dismay’d?
    Not tho’ the soldier knew
    Some one had blunder’d:
    Theirs not to make reply,
    Theirs not to reason why,
    Theirs but to do and die:
    Into the valley of Death
    Rode the six hundred.
     

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    Anyone seeing this reported in the TV network news yet?
    Certainly not TV news...
    There's little to no attention being given in online portals even.

    All circuits are currently busy:
    LIVE BREAKING NEWS of the GEORGE FLOYD MURDER TRIAL
    (also including crawler appearances by COVID-19 and ASIAN HATE CRIME)

    edit: less snark included than you might assume. This is actual current content
     

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    There's little to no attention being given in online portals even.
    NPR ran a brief piece on it when Russia increased military presence on the Ukranian border, but I heard it in the car and can't find an online article that corresponds. It's also showed up in my round of non-American news portals I visit, Al Jazeera and BBC News having regular updates on it.

    It's not shocking that US news hasn't turned its attention to the matter; they will when the conflict gets big enough, unfortunately.
     

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    "Ukraine’s president has called on Nato and key member states to hasten his country’s membership of the western military alliance in response to a growing buildup of Russian forces on his country’s borders."
    I continually marvel at the missplaced faith in Article 5 by those who should know how feckless NATO actually is

    There are no more Franz Ferdinands or Treaties of Versailles
     

    KellyinAvon

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    This is a very old argument. While unemployed after the Revolution, John Paul Jones worked for Imperial Russia toward securing Russia's grasp on Crimea from Turkish attempts to take control.
    So he left the military and went to work, as a military contractor? A long time before the flying tigers I might add.
     

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    So he left the military and went to work, as a military contractor? A long time before the flying tigers I might add.
    Yes. It worked pretty well for a while. He eventually ran into the problem that while he was a better commander his rival contractor was sleeping with Catherine the Great sending his position in the organization down the drain.
     
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    Ark

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    Russia didn't move all that armor last week for fun and photo ops. Seems pretty safe to say Russia is going to carve off their next piece of Ukraine.
     
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