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  • jamil

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    Growing up my family were/are members of a Methodist Church that my Gfather was a founding member. My gfather, Uncle and my Father were members of the churches Mens Club. That had two shows a year at the church to raise money for the club. Most of the men did drag skits for the show.
    It was done for humor, fun and to raise money.
    It had nothing to do with grooming.
    Did they get little boys to dress up as girls and dance in front of men suggestively, gaslighting them to feel like they're girls?
     

    jzwhts

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    Times change. Social norms change. And I wouldn't get too upset about social norms changing if they were changing through normal social evolution. They're changing because some people want to fundamentally change the US, and even the West.
    Yep, teaching the kids to hate the US then teaching them to question themselves and hate who they are. It's to create an angry and in turn violent society. Change the norm....grooming!
     

    JettaKnight

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    Grooming is just another name for conditioning/brainwashing. Now if it’s your kid, parents do tend to pass on their own beliefs to their kids. But when it’s other people’s kids, nah. That **** should be illegal. If some kids come to the conclusion that they’re gay or trans, that’s their right. And if they come to that conclusion because their parents are, it’s the same kind of thing, as long as no long term irreversible decisions are made. But gaslighting other people’s kids to believe they are should be criminal. Am I right?
    You are correct.
     

    JettaKnight

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    Yep, teaching the kids to hate the US then teaching them to question themselves and hate who they are. It's to create an angry and in turn violent society. Change the norm....grooming!
    I'[m lost - who are we talking about? Hating (a part) of America and creating an angry and violent society can be any number of actors all across the political spectrum.



    As to "grooming" - that word in almost exclusively used for sexual abuse in a negative context. I have yet to ever hear, "The KKK is grooming kids to be racist."
     

    JettaKnight

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    Times change. Social norms change. And I wouldn't get too upset about social norms changing if they were changing through normal social evolution. They're changing because some people want to fundamentally change the US, and even the West.
    You mean like abolitionist did? Or suffragettes did? Or MLK?

    A hundred years later no one is saying, "they didn't follow the change rules and moved too fast!" But ask anyone at the time...



    I don't agree with it, and I certainly don't think it's right, but change is change - and this change is moving at a frightening pace.
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    You mean like abolitionist did? Or suffragettes did? Or MLK?

    A hundred years later no one is saying, "they didn't follow the change rules and moved too fast!" But ask anyone at the time...



    I don't agree with it, and I certainly don't think it's right, but change is change - and this change is moving at a frightening pace.
    Are you actually equating the ending of slavery to what the leftists are doing to our culture, our kids with LGBT grooming?
     

    churchmouse

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    Or ignore it; don't give in to the rage porn media.


    Look, I don't agree with it, but I agree with the first amendment. The same thing that allows me to have vacation bible school for all the neighborhood kids is the same thing that allows this fruitloop to prance around.

    Otherwise it's just, "Free for me and not for thee".




    And stop calling things you don't agree with, "grooming". It's insulting to actual victims of sexual crimes who really were groomed.
    I think you are missing the point being made. Why not call it what it is my friend or would you have us ignore that it’s a terrible thing. What would you call this obvious practice.
     

    churchmouse

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    I do... It's a good chance to explain the meaning of the words MEN and WOMEN.

    "Hey, those are MEN dressed up to look like, and acting like, WOMEN."

    If they are women, dressing up as women, then what's the big deal?
    And you would be wrong sir but hey that’s just my own humble opinion.

    Let those minds form their own opinions when they get old enough to actually understand what they are looking at.
     

    churchmouse

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    Look, you're free to ignore this if you choose. I'm not even saying adults can't defile themselves anyway they choose. Children are involved. They're not consenting. They can't consent, they are being groomed--groomed to accept, embrace, normalize, and celebrate this stuff. They are victims.
    Yes. Period.
     

    churchmouse

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    Howbout just sending the message that you don't need to try and emulate me, and my lifestyle and I won't force it upon you, but I would like for you to accept me for who I am and leave it at that instead of shoving it in everyone's face.
    This is my issue with the alphabet lifestyles. They shove up your back side and not sure there is an intended pun here.
    Don’t “Tell” me I have to accept anything. I will make my own decisions on any subject/topic/lifestyle as that is my right.
    If you just step off and live as you choose no worries but leave me and my kids outside of your sphere of influence.
    Every thing you do with a child is in some way grooming it. You are shaping the way they think and act.
    Sometimes people make my head explode but I have come to expect it from some.
     

    DadSmith

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    Times change. Social norms change. And I wouldn't get too upset about social norms changing if they were changing through normal social evolution. They're changing because some people want to fundamentally change the US, and even the West.
    2 Timothy chapter 3 explains a lot of what is going on in today's society.
     
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