New question 10 on 4473. Indy/Marion county residents....

[yotehunt]

I like the binary answer too. Asks about drug use and mental disorders, but non binary is acceptable.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I like the binary answer too. Asks about drug use and mental disorders, but non binary is acceptable.

Yeah. I have a mildly unpopular opinion. I'm ok with Trans folks. You feel that your brain doesnt match your body. OK. You do you. But there is DEFINITELY something wrong with someone who claims they are neither. Pick a team. You cant be both or neither.

 

[Ingomike]

That’s a carmel zip code.

It is not a Carmel zip code. I present the facts, confirmed by another member in a different location and you guys act like you cannot believe it. This is in Carmel city limits with an Indianapolis address.

“ZIP Code 46280 is located in the state of Indiana in the Indianapolis metro area. ZIP code 46280 is primarily located in Hamilton County.”

Official Zip Code Name

Indianapolis

ZIP Code 46280 - Indianapolis, Indiana

Indianapolis IN ZIP Code 46280 Profile, Map, Demographics, Politics and School Attendance Areas - Updated March 2024

www.zipdatamaps.com

 

[defaultdotxbe]

It is not a Carmel zip code. I present the facts, confirmed by another member in a different location and you guys act like you cannot believe it. This is in Carmel city limits with an Indianapolis address.

“ZIP Code 46280 is located in the state of Indiana in the Indianapolis metro area. ZIP code 46280 is primarily located in Hamilton County.”

Official Zip Code Name

Indianapolis

ZIP Code 46280 - Indianapolis, Indiana

Indianapolis IN ZIP Code 46280 Profile, Map, Demographics, Politics and School Attendance Areas - Updated March 2024

www.zipdatamaps.com

As I said earlier your address is the city you actually live in, not the one you might share a zip code with. The address you posted earlier would accurately given as Carmel, IN 46280, not Indianapolis.

The fact that some businesses list Indianapolis is basically the opposite of the example I gave, where they are in a separate incorporated city but rather than hating the larger city nearby they *prefer* to identify with it, even if it's technically an incorrect address.

 

[Cameramonkey]

It is not a Carmel zip code. I present the facts, confirmed by another member in a different location and you guys act like you cannot believe it. This is in Carmel city limits with an Indianapolis address.

“ZIP Code 46280 is located in the state of Indiana in the Indianapolis metro area. ZIP code 46280 is primarily located in Hamilton County.”

Official Zip Code Name

Indianapolis

ZIP Code 46280 - Indianapolis, Indiana

Indianapolis IN ZIP Code 46280 Profile, Map, Demographics, Politics and School Attendance Areas - Updated March 2024

www.zipdatamaps.com

I see the confusion. my first DDG search returned " 46280- Carmel, IN." That is where I stopped.

Digging deeper it crosses county lines and it returns both cities for the same zip.

 

[JGIBSON]

I completed a digital 4473 yesterday and this question was not on it ?

 

[yotehunt]

I completed a digital 4473 yesterday and this question was not on it ?

By chance, did it have a 3 anatomy preference? Wonder how many versions are available.

 

[JGIBSON]

By chance, did it have a 3 anatomy preference? Wonder how many versions are available.

Yessir that unfortunately was on there. Lol

 

[defaultdotxbe]

I completed a digital 4473 yesterday and this question was not on it ?

I did a paper one yesterday, non-binary option, no city limits question.

 

[BigMoose]

I did a paper one yesterday, non-binary option, no city limits question.

Not all the forms, both electronic, or paper are updated yet.

The last gun I bought the guy said he just run out of the old forms, and started to use the new ones.

 

[HKUSP]

If there's any ambiguity about it I'd just check Unknown and move on with my day. That's pretty much the same as claiming the 5th, or "I do not recall at this time, Senator".

 

[Timjoebillybob]

I can't imagine what difference this question would make. They need to know what police agency to call if I'm denied? BS. If I'm denied and didn't lie on the form, did I break a law? If a person is denied purchase of a new firearm (assuming they're not a felon) does that mean they are no longer allowed to be in possession of any firearm? I just cannot see how this question benefits anyone; not the seller, not the buyer, not law enforcement. A sheriff can always be the default enforcement agency contacted. Also, Lawrence, Beech Grove and Speedway are inside Indy/Marion county. But they're not all cities, some are towns.

Possible scenario, you (generic you) go in and purchase a firearm and get delayed. 3 days pass and the store tells you to come pick it up. There hasn't been an approval or denial come in but they are allowed to transfer it to you since the 3 days is up, you pick it up. Day 4 or 5 the call comes in that it's denied...

It is not a Carmel zip code. I present the facts, confirmed by another member in a different location and you guys act like you cannot believe it. This is in Carmel city limits with an Indianapolis address.

“ZIP Code 46280 is located in the state of Indiana in the Indianapolis metro area. ZIP code 46280 is primarily located in Hamilton County.”

Official Zip Code Name

Indianapolis

ZIP Code 46280 - Indianapolis, Indiana

Indianapolis IN ZIP Code 46280 Profile, Map, Demographics, Politics and School Attendance Areas - Updated March 2024

www.zipdatamaps.com

"Indianapolis metro area" See the last two words, that doesn't mean just Indianapolis. And as has been pointed out just because the company lists their address as Indy doesn't mean that is what their actual address is. I could say my address is the next town over, doesn't mean it actually is. What does their lease say? And has been also pointed out other businesses in that same building use Carmel.
Remember this thread where "metro area" is discussed?

Trio of Indiana Cities Tops WSJ/Realtor.com Housing Index

I'm glad we have cold and snow. Now that the word is out about The Fort, I'd hate for a wave of Californicators bringing high taxes and street poop. Sorry for the pay wall...

www.indianagunowners.com

I'd also guess they are using the USPS preferred or recommended city, not their actual city. There can be a difference. For that zip code Indianapolis is the "recommended" city, Carmel and Nora are also acceptable. From the map of that zip code, it doesn't seem to cover any of Indy proper.

https://www.unitedstateszipcodes.org/46280/

 

[manifest destiny]

Possible scenario, you (generic you) go in and purchase a firearm and get delayed. 3 days pass and the store tells you to come pick it up. There hasn't been an approval or denial come in but they are allowed to transfer it to you since the 3 days is up, you pick it up. Day 4 or 5 the call comes in that it's denied...

But what influence does my response to "Live within city limits Y/N/Unknown" have on your described scenario? I guess I'm not able to connect the dots. They already asked what city, state, county/parish, so how does this question affect response to your delayed denial example? The answer may be obvious but I'm just not getting it.

 

[Cameramonkey]

And to be fair, I could write a lettter and send it to "BFE, IN 46241" and it would still make it to that post office. They go off the number, not the word.

 

[Cameramonkey]

But what influence does my response to "Live within city limits Y/N/Unknown" have on your described scenario? I guess I'm not able to connect the dots. They already asked what city, state, county/parish, so how does this question affect response to your delayed denial example? The answer may be obvious but I'm just not getting it.

It was mentioned upthread. They want you to tell them which police dept to call if they need to alert relevant LEO without having to look up the details on a map. If you live in the city, they call city PD, if not they call county Sheriff.

It should read "If you called 911 to summon LEO to your home, would it be police or Sheriff that shows up? "

 

[Ingomike]

It was mentioned upthread. They want you to tell them which police dept to call if they need to alert relevant LEO without having to look up the details on a map. If you live in the city, they call city PD, if not they call county Sheriff.

It should read "If you called 911 to summon LEO to your home, would it be police or Sheriff that shows up? "

Got any proof of this? I have seen none so far, just speculation…

 

[Ingomike]

Indianapolis metro area" See the last two words, that doesn't mean just Indianapolis. And as has been pointed out just because the company lists their address as Indy doesn't mean that is what their actual address is. I could say my address is the next town over, doesn't mean it actually is. What does their lease say? And has been also pointed out other businesses in that same building use Carmel.
Remember this thread where "metro area" is discussed?

That was not the topic. The discussion centered on physically living in one city and your address is another city. Metro is an appropriate descriptor in this case to describe the location that is not Indy but addressed Indy. I proved that beyond a doubt occurs. Not sure what relevance this has to that topic…

 

[Cameramonkey]

Got any proof of this? I have seen none so far, just speculation…

One of the talking heads was told it was to streamline the ability to contact relevant LEO with just the 4473. For whatever reason they need. (good or bad)

Feel free to believe whatever you want.

 

[Ingomike]

And to be fair, I could write a lettter and send it to "BFE, IN 46241" and it would still make it to that post office. They go off the number, not the word.

I believe now you may get by with that, but they changed a law to allow that back 15 or so years ago…

 

[Ingomike]

One of the talking heads was told it was to streamline the ability to contact relevant LEO with just the 4473. For whatever reason they need. (good or bad)

Feel free to believe whatever you want.

Just wanted to know the lay of the land.