Mandated vaccines or weekly testing for employers of 100+ people.......

[actaeon277]

As soon as we comply, things will get better. ..
Or, maybe not
New Zealand is stretching it's "muscles"

 

[indyblue]

Remember this the next time you go shopping.

Kroger will ban unvaccinated staff from getting paid sick leave if they catch COVID and will start charging non-vaxxed managers $50 monthly health insurance surcharge​

Kroger ban unvaccinated staff from paid sick leave if they catch Covid

Kroger announced they won't be giving paid sick leave to unvaccinated workers who get Covid. Earlier this year the company implemented a $100 reward to incentivize the shots.

www.dailymail.co.uk

When do the smoking and obesity surcharges kick in?

What about the alcoholics and their liver?

 

[JCSR]

Several major hospitals around the state are at or near 120% occupancy levels, but it's not because of COVID-19 patients.

“Our hospitals are bursting at the seams,” she said. “But they're not filled with COVID-19 patients. Remarkably, they are filled with patients who do not need hospital care.”

Briley described the patients that hospitals can’t be moved out of hospitals as those who have “complex, long-term care needs,” for which a facility can’t be found due to staffing shortages.

Washington hospitals beyond full but not because of COVID-19 patients

Several major hospitals around the state are at or near 120% occupancy levels, but it's not because of COVID-19 patients.

www.king5.com

 

[Ark]

Several major hospitals around the state are at or near 120% occupancy levels, but it's not because of COVID-19 patients.

“Our hospitals are bursting at the seams,” she said. “But they're not filled with COVID-19 patients. Remarkably, they are filled with patients who do not need hospital care.”

Briley described the patients that hospitals can’t be moved out of hospitals as those who have “complex, long-term care needs,” for which a facility can’t be found due to staffing shortages.

Washington hospitals beyond full but not because of COVID-19 patients

Several major hospitals around the state are at or near 120% occupancy levels, but it's not because of COVID-19 patients.

www.king5.com

Oh no, maybe they shouldn't have fired all their unvaccinated staff.

World's tiniest violin...

 

[jsx1043]

Several major hospitals around the state are at or near 120% occupancy levels, but it's not because of COVID-19 patients.

“Our hospitals are bursting at the seams,” she said. “But they're not filled with COVID-19 patients. Remarkably, they are filled with patients who do not need hospital care.”

Briley described the patients that hospitals can’t be moved out of hospitals as those who have “complex, long-term care needs,” for which a facility can’t be found due to staffing shortages.

Washington hospitals beyond full but not because of COVID-19 patients

Several major hospitals around the state are at or near 120% occupancy levels, but it's not because of COVID-19 patients.

www.king5.com

Seems to me like maybe withholding regular medical care from people for almost two years and firing medical professionals has had a negative impact on the overall operations of the medical system. Whodathunkit?

 

[actaeon277]

Oh no, maybe they shouldn't have fired all their unvaccinated staff.

World's tiniest violin...

Well, that's just crazy talk.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

When do the smoking and obesity surcharges kick in?

What about the alcoholics and their liver?

Gattica.

 

[d.kaufman]

 

[Ziggidy]

Remember this the next time you go shopping.

Kroger will ban unvaccinated staff from getting paid sick leave if they catch COVID and will start charging non-vaxxed managers $50 monthly health insurance surcharge​

Kroger ban unvaccinated staff from paid sick leave if they catch Covid

Kroger announced they won't be giving paid sick leave to unvaccinated workers who get Covid. Earlier this year the company implemented a $100 reward to incentivize the shots.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I worked for a hospital that started that years ago with the seasonal flu. If you got the vaccine and got the flu, you get paid time off. If you refused the flu shot and got the flu, it was an automatic 7 - 10 days off no pay.

That has been done for many many years now.

The insurance surcharge is not that uncommon. Meet certain criteria and you get health care discounts. That is common in many places of business now. Life insurance.....old versus young, smoker versus non-smoker and so on.

I DO NOT support any mandate or attempts to manipulate peopleinto getting the vax, but getting upset now over practices that have been going on for decades is not an effective argument.

 

[Ark]

I worked for a hospital that started that years ago with the seasonal flu. If you got the vaccine and got the flu, you get paid time off. If you refused the flu shot and got the flu, it was an automatic 7 - 10 days off no pay.

That has been done for many many years now.

The insurance surcharge is not that uncommon. Meet certain criteria and you get health care discounts. That is common in many places of business now. Life insurance.....old versus young, smoker versus non-smoker and so on.

I DO NOT support any mandate or attempts to manipulate peopleinto getting the vax, but getting upset now over practices that have been going on for decades is not an effective argument.

It's not a hospital, it's Kroger.

 

[buckwacker]

I worked for a hospital that started that years ago with the seasonal flu. If you got the vaccine and got the flu, you get paid time off. If you refused the flu shot and got the flu, it was an automatic 7 - 10 days off no pay.

That has been done for many many years now.

The insurance surcharge is not that uncommon. Meet certain criteria and you get health care discounts. That is common in many places of business now. Life insurance.....old versus young, smoker versus non-smoker and so on.

I DO NOT support any mandate or attempts to manipulate peopleinto getting the vax, but getting upset now over practices that have been going on for decades is not an effective argument.

I think you can find your answer in the Declaration of Independence.

"and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Yes we're talking employment rather than government, an since human nature isn't that dependant on who we're interacting with, I think this sums up fairly well the reasons for the push back now. We've reached critical mass for a number of folks.

 

[Ingomike]

So a mega hospital group is requiring a clear virus test four days before outpatient surgery but does no follow up unless the patient exhibits symptoms. Where is the logic/common in this? We all know that change could easily happen in four days.

This type of BS is just another reason logical/common sense people look at those of you that believe TPTB all the time and say what the ****…

 

[Ingomike]

Many don’t want facts, they are inconvenient to the fearful. They want the illogical BS that comes from big pharma, in bed with the government and news that is distributed by sources that the biggest advertisers are big pharma.

Heck, it came out today the twatter and ubtube will not allow folks to say that the vaccine will not stop you from getting or spreading the virus. Something even most pro-vax usually agree is true…

 

[JCSR]

My FIL passed "of covid" in January after MIL had a 3 day visit in the hospital, not covid related. Within 5 days of MIL returning 7 of the 8 of us having contact with her had covid she included. She had tested negative when admitted. She was not tested upon release to home. I know of at least 2 more families that had the same experience. Same hospital also. Makes you wonder WTF is going on sometimes.

 

[Ziggidy]

It's not a hospital, it's Kroger.

It's a business.....they both are. Unless someone has been sleeping for the last 50 years, many companies have had policies that offer discounts to healthcare for a healthy lifestyle.

 

[Ark]

It's a business.....they both are. Unless someone has been sleeping for the last 50 years, many companies have had policies that offer discounts to healthcare for a healthy lifestyle.

This is not normal. Do not act like this is normal.

 

[Ziggidy]

This is not normal. Do not act like this is normal.

Some people are still sleeping.

I would think it is more the norm than not.

Have you taken out any life insurance lately? Health insurance is not any different.

 

[Ark]

Some people are still sleeping.

I would think it is more the norm than not.

Have you taken out any life insurance lately? Health insurance is not any different.

I have never in my entire life been told by an employer or insurer that I was subject to financial penalty or withholding of benefits because I didn't get an injection.

When have fat people gotten fewer sick days because they were irresponsible and ate too many big macs?

 

[Ingomike]

Some people are still sleeping.

I would think it is more the norm than not.

Have you taken out any life insurance lately? Health insurance is not any different.

Life insurance is different. A whole different set of laws and regulations apply to life insurance and a different set to health insurance. These types of thinking always bog the conservative side down. It gives the opposition the win because conservatives are divided. Are we going to allow insu corporations to dictate details of how people live? Where would it stop? What is too far?

Should a guy that builds race cars be charged more or lose benefits over an employee that is a gamer due to risk of injury from the tools and work?

For example think FB and twutter should be made to allow all opinions? Conservatives lose a third to the defeatists saying “it’s their company”.

 

[JCSR]