This had already been discussed in the thread about bumpstocks back when it happened. But briefly, Republicans controlled the House. The Senate would have needed 60 votes to bring any gun legislation to the floor for a vote. There’s a Republican President who says he’s pro 2A sitting in the Whitehouse. I’d take my chances that even if they could have gotten a bill passed, no way they have 2/3’s to override a veto. You do believe that Trump would have vetoed it, right?Something was going to be done, you'd rather have Congress pass a new law that would have included more than just a bump stock ban? Too much political capital would have had to be spent to veto such a bill.
I want to make sure i understand you then. Banning a bump stock is not an infringement of the 2A?
Do I believe Trump would have vetoed? Don't know, depends on what would have been in the bill but I do understand why it played out the way it did. Like I said something was going to be done and that was the least that was going to happen and it didn't cost a lot of political capital.This had already been discussed in the thread about bumpstocks back when it happened. But briefly, Republicans controlled the House. The Senate would have needed 60 votes to bring any gun legislation to the floor for a vote. There’s a Republican President who says he’s pro 2A sitting in the Whitehouse. I’d take my chances that even if they could have gotten a bill passed, no way they have 2/3’s to override a veto. You do believe that Trump would have vetoed it, right?
It cost the precedent of the ATF redefining terms to make things that weren’t illegal before, illegal after. That may have been the foundation of the nonsense with the ATF letter regarding the brace ban.Do I believe Trump would have vetoed? Don't know, depends on what would have been in the bill but I do understand why it played out the way it did. Like I said something was going to be done and that was the least that was going to happen and it didn't cost a lot of political capital.
That's all I'll say since you so kindly pointed out that it has already been discussed way back when, I just noticed that it keeps coming up and people seem to forget come of the reasons why it happened the way it did.
You act like that is something new, the ATF has always reinterpreted the regs to suit their needs. Look at all the bans or attempted bans on different types of ammo over the years as an example. Trying reading the ATF guidance docs for FFL's. they seem to change more often than some change their underwear. Redefining things is nothing new for them and the bump stock ban has nothing to do with it now.It cost the precedent of the ATF redefining terms to make things that weren’t illegal before, illegal after. That may have been the foundation of the nonsense with the ATF letter regarding the brace ban.
Gave Biden team ifeasIt cost the precedent of the ATF redefining terms to make things that weren’t illegal before, illegal after. That may have been the foundation of the nonsense with the ATF letter regarding the brace ban.
2) the republicans did not want the optics of challenging their own president.
At the time of arrest 1 mile northeast of the Capitol building, Beeler was accused of illegally carrying a concealed weapon outside of a home or business, possession of an unregistered firearm, possession of unregistered ammunition, unlawful possession of ammunition and possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
Part of me wonders if this wasn’t a setup for propaganda......They already arrested someone trying to go through a security checkpoint with "unauthorized credentials", 2 handguns and 500 rounds of ammo.
Driving directly into a police checkpoint knowing you have guns that are illegal in DC is not the best idea.
Capitol Police arrest Virginia man who tried to pass security checkpoint with gun, 'unauthorized' inauguration credential
Wesley Allen Beeler was arrested Friday after he tried to pass a security checkpoint with hundreds of rounds of ammunition and multiple guns.eu.usatoday.com
I had no idea ammunition had to be registered as well in DC.
How does that work? They laser engrave a serial number on each round of ammunition?
Oops there's already a thread about that ...
Busted a guy in DC already
The guy had one Glock 9mm and 500 rounds of ammo. Didn't say if he had more than one magazine for the Glock. Also, had 12 shotgun shells? :ugh: I'm calling BSwww.indianagunowners.com
There is no "ammunition registration" (yet). This is from the same type of so-called "journalists" that think rubber ear plugs are "rubber bullets".They already arrested someone trying to go through a security checkpoint with "unauthorized credentials", 2 handguns and 500 rounds of ammo.
Driving directly into a police checkpoint knowing you have guns that are illegal in DC is not the best idea.
Capitol Police arrest Virginia man who tried to pass security checkpoint with gun, 'unauthorized' inauguration credential
Wesley Allen Beeler was arrested Friday after he tried to pass a security checkpoint with hundreds of rounds of ammunition and multiple guns.eu.usatoday.com
I had no idea ammunition had to be registered as well in DC.
How does that work? They laser engrave a serial number on each round of ammunition?
Oops there's already a thread about that ...
Busted a guy in DC already
The guy had one Glock 9mm and 500 rounds of ammo. Didn't say if he had more than one magazine for the Glock. Also, had 12 shotgun shells? :ugh: I'm calling BSwww.indianagunowners.com
I think he had 2 guns with 2 mags, plus one extra "high cap mag" (illegal in DC).Part of me wonders if this wasn’t a setup for propaganda......
who keeps 500 rounds , 2 flocks but only 1 mag?
In DC you are only allowed to possess ammo for guns that are registered to you. So if you have a 9mm you can only buy/possess 9mm ammo. I'm guessing the charge stems from that.There is no "ammunition registration" (yet). This is from the same type of so-called "journalists" that think rubber ear plugs are "rubber bullets".
Now, if you’re one of those who believe this, then who do blame? The private citizen taking office next week, or the current head of the government? No, I don’t mean Mike Pence, I mean the guy who is actually supposed to be protecting you from “totalitarian police states?” If you believe we are becoming that, why is your champion silent, as if he’s abandoned governing altogether? This assumes that he hasn’t gone the way of the Czars, like some other people think... because that actually would explain it.Went from constitutional republic to totalitarian police state in less than a week.
Apparently there is...Okay, WTF. There is a charge for "protesting in a capitol building"? It's one of the charges horned hat "shaman" caught.
More charges filed against man who wore furry hat in riot
PHOENIX (AP) — Additional criminal charges have been filed against an Arizona man who authorities say took part in the insurrection at the U.S.apnews.com
They probably also charged him with "wearing face paint on the front of his head in a federal face paint restricted area", "wearing a horn on the right side of his head", "wearing a hat in a federal building without a hat permit", "possession of a horn over 4 inches(two counts)", "wearing a horn on the left side of his head" and "not being an antifa member during a riot". They will probably think of more.