Are healthy people really getting hit hard by Covid?

[wtburnette]

Why do you same handful of guys have to get into every Covid thread and try to convince yourselves that you’re right? I get it, times are uncertain and conspiracy theories help you put order to it all by believing somebody is in charge, even if they’re malevolent. Conspiracy theories have always popped up when times are uncertain, for the same reason. Just let people confront the reality of the situation without your self-soothing conspiracy ****. Times are tough right now, deal with it like an adult instead of make-believe fantasies that are easier for you to face.

I don’t want to cause CM or the other mods a headache, so I’ll leave it there and move on. Maybe have a little respect for the people who are hurting right now and move the silliness back to the other threads you’re already in.

Maybe some of us are just trying to wake up the handful of INGO users who seem to be purposefully blind to what's going on?

 

[JCSR]

Unfortunately, even a lot of those types of things have been poisoned and aren't necessarily immune to politics.

Every one of them get grant money from .gov . Get out of line and no grant money.

 

[NKBJ]

I remind myself that it's an engineered weapon, part of a well thought out plan of conquest and acquisition. And, that what it does to people isn't necessarily a matter of their not being what allopathic medicine categorizes as "well" when they were exposed and became colonized by the organism(s). And, that we do not yet know whether the weapon system is binary.

 

[phylodog]

I remind myself that it's an engineered weapon, part of a well thought out plan of conquest and acquisition. And, that what it does to people isn't necessarily a matter of their not being what allopathic medicine categorizes as "well" when they were exposed and became colonized by the organism(s). And, that we do not yet know whether the weapon system is binary.

I don't believe any particular theory about the vaccine, it's just been surrounded by too much suspicious crap for me to be comfortable with it. I don't know what is going on, who is behind it, whether it's nefarious or just stupidity on a massive scale. I wish I did.

 

[mmpsteve]

I don't believe any particular theory about the vaccine, it's just been surrounded by too much suspicious crap for me to be comfortable with it. I don't know what is going on, who is behind it, whether it's nefarious or just stupidity on a massive scale. I wish I did.

Join the club, brother.

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[Ingomike]

Absolutely not. I primarily look through scholarly publications and their published research. Many of which come out of highly regards medical schools like John's Hopkins, Harvard, and even IU. Google Scholar is quite handy.

How many times though the last couple of years did JH and Harvard come out with something only to have it buried, excused away, or retracted because it didn't fit the narrative? A lot! We have highly credentialed scientists saying they were silenced, threatened, or cancelled, to force them follow the narrative.

All funding comes from those pushing the narrative.

 

[Ingomike]

Why do you same handful of guys have to get into every Covid thread and try to convince yourselves that you’re right? I get it, times are uncertain and conspiracy theories help you put order to it all by believing somebody is in charge, even if they’re malevolent. Conspiracy theories have always popped up when times are uncertain, for the same reason. Just let people confront the reality of the situation without your self-soothing conspiracy ****. Times are tough right now, deal with it like an adult instead of make-believe fantasies that are easier for you to face.

I don’t want to cause CM or the other mods a headache, so I’ll leave it there and move on. Maybe have a little respect for the people who are hurting right now and move the silliness back to the other threads you’re already in.

Why do the same handful of guys get into every wuwho flu thread and call those asking questions, presenting information not from the narrative, and searching for truth conspiracy theorists? They can't seem to handle the questions and the questioning of the authority advancing the narrative?

 

[Ingomike]

Every one of them get grant money from .gov . Get out of line and no grant money.

Follow the money...

 

[Denny347]

Unfortunately, even a lot of those types of things have been poisoned and aren't necessarily immune to politics.

Of course not, there is no 100% bias free news but it doesn't have to be to be useful or informative.

 

[Denny347]

Every one of them get grant money from .gov . Get out of line and no grant m

How many times though the last couple of years did JH and Harvard come out with something only to have it buried, excused away, or retracted because it didn't fit the narrative? A lot! We have highly credentialed scientists saying they were silenced, threatened, or cancelled, to force them follow the narrative.

All funding comes from those pushing the narrative.

Well, I guess I need to find new sources of scientific information, never mind, there aren't any. That explains a lot I suppose.

 

[Ingomike]

Well, I guess I need to find new sources of scientific information,

That would be prudent if one wants the truth about a hyper politicized virus...

 

[Denny347]

That would be prudent if one wants the truth about a hyper politicized virus...

But I am told there are no trusted sources. So, there is that. Anyone here can give me a link to a unbiased scientific study/research site regarding COVID that I can use. I've given examples and have been told they are compromised to the point that anything related to them is untrustworthy. So, please refer me to one that is.

 

[JCSR]

But I am told there are no trusted sources. So, there is that. Anyone here can give me a link to a unbiased scientific study/research site regarding COVID that I can use. I've given examples and have been told they are compromised to the point that anything related to them is untrustworthy. So, please refer me to one that is.

Have a beer

 

[Dentoro]

I’m old. Nearly 50. I work at a school. My wife works at a school. My son and daughter live live with me and last year they both tested positive. My school went all the way through last year. I have been exposed prolly thousands of times. That is not including the exposures through my family. The February of 2019 before all schools shut down I was sick for nearly a month, was tested two times for both flues and back negative. I’m Pretty sure I had it then. If I didn’t have it I must have a great immune system or been lucky so far. Through it all I have not tested positive. I’m a pure blood.

 

[Dentoro]

But I am told there are no trusted sources. So, there is that. Anyone here can give me a link to a unbiased scientific study/research site regarding COVID that I can use. I've given examples and have been told they are compromised to the point that anything related to them is untrustworthy. So, please refer me to one that is.

Israeli data is parsed by ages 0-10 and so on to age 70 and they are lumped together after that. They are also parsed by vexed and non. Their data is currently showing if you beat the disease naturally you are much less likely to be reinfected by covid or variants 12-18 times less likely than faxed patients. I honestly think there is much about this disease they have not been honest with and that rabbit hole is deeper than we all live to find out about.

https://www.gov.il/en/departments/guides/information-corona

 

[wtburnette]

But I am told there are no trusted sources. So, there is that. Anyone here can give me a link to a unbiased scientific study/research site regarding COVID that I can use. I've given examples and have been told they are compromised to the point that anything related to them is untrustworthy. So, please refer me to one that is.

That is the exact problem we're highlighting. What source(s) are trustworthy? I sure as heck don't know, but MSM, this administration, WHO, CDC and others have been wrong often enough during this fiasco that it's hard to trust anything they say. The question is, why do you trust the source you linked to, but disagree with other sources posted? Is it because the source is reputable, or that it reinforces your opinion?

Going along with the subject of this thread, we've seen stories over and over from the media talking about "healthy people" dying of COVID, only to see a picture of an obese person, or reading the article to find they had comorbidities. I don't know about you, but this makes me distrust these types of articles. Same thing when there was a massive amount of articles that came out talking about the unvaxxed dying of COVID and their last words in the hospital being that they wished they'd gotten the jab. Those articles were all disproven. So why does the MSM keep pushing a narrative we all know to be false and what lessons are you learning from it?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that no healthy people have died from COVID, but I believe them to be extremely rare cases, similar to instances of healthy people dying from the seasonal flu. If you look at the CDC numbers, which I believe have been inflated, but they're the best "source of truth" we have, you'll see that deaths for those under 75-80, percentage wise, is pretty low. When you know that we have an obesity epidemic in this country, it's pretty easy to assume that a certain percentage of the deaths under say 50, are due to those dying having been obese, which seems to be one of the leading causes of complication for those contracting COVID. The number is already pretty small for those dying of COVID in this age group (and lower). So taking a portion of them out due to being overweight or obese lowers the number even further for those who might assumed to be healthy.

That's why my answer to this question is no, healthy people are not being hit hard by COVID. Especially when people who are possibly dying from the jab are lumped in as COVID deaths, due to the way those deaths are reported. So yeah, when I see articles that support my analysis, I will absolutely trust those articles over articles disputing my analysis. Plus, well, just read my signature quote.

 

[KLB]

Not exactly healthy, but here is a case in Canada that was mischaracterized. Boy dying of inoperable brain cancer reported as the youngest Covid death in Alberta.

Days before Nathanael -- or Nati, as his family called him -- passed, he tested positive for COVID-19.

Jonatan said he immediately began to worry his brother’s cause of death would be classified as coronavirus: “What if they’re going to write it off?”

“I assured my parents, like, there’s no way they’re going to do that. That would just be ridiculous. There’s no way they could do that.”

Five days later, Alberta’s top government and health officials delivered the provincial COVID-19 update in a live news conference. Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr. Deena Hinshaw reported 33 deaths due to COVID-19 over the Thanksgiving long weekend.

“This includes the death of a 14-year-old who had complex, pre-existing medical medical conditions that played a significant role in their death,” she said before continuing, “I extend my deepest condolences to the loved ones of all of these individuals.”

Hinshaw apologizes after Alberta mistakenly reports 14-year-old's cancer death was caused by COVID-19

The family of a 14-year-old Alberta boy who recently died doesn’t want his nine-month cancer fight overlooked because he tested positive for COVID-19 shortly before dying.

edmonton.ctvnews.ca

 

[NKBJ]

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I don't believe any particular theory about the vaccine, it's just been surrounded by too much suspicious crap for me to be comfortable with it. I don't know what is going on, who is behind it, whether it's nefarious or just stupidity on a massive scale. I wish I did.

The vaccines are different issues from the bug, or are they?
Yeah, we've been hit with an engineered biological weapon that was a product of an international collaborative effort with discussions of it (and I'll take that as indicative of planning) stretching back so far that the trail grows indistinct with time. But what about the vaccines, the genetically engineered products that necessitated the redefinition of "vaccine"? As you expressed I don't know either but there's a lot of suspicious crap that makes me want to stand way way back. I just don't know.

But I do think we need to expect the approaching lock down.

 

[phylodog]

But I do think we need to expect the approaching lock down.

I expect to ignore any further mandates about masks, jabs or locking down.

 

[wtburnette]

I expect to ignore any further mandates about masks, jabs or locking down.

I expect any further talks of lockdowns to generate serious pushback.