Are healthy people really getting hit hard by Covid?

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  • DoggyDaddy

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    I've had the vax and I had tinnitus before and I have it after, and it hasn't gotten any better or worse, so make of that what you will. :dunno: The only thing I can say with certainty is that the vax did not cure my tinnitus. :):
     

    JettaKnight

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    Isn't it interesting that for every claim made against the vaccines there is a ready made study already done, just waiting to be posted?

    So we have a rushed vaccine that has not gone through long term studies but we have studies that refutes any side effects claims, how is that possible?
    Gee, it's almost as if people are getting good at dealing with the truck loads of misinformation being peddled on the internet.
     

    Jon Smith

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    No doubt that these have been some trying times. Hard to tell who to trust anymore. (Did I just say WHO, no I certainly don't trust them. Ha, ha.) One of the reasons I joined this site is to connect with folks that can be trusted. I have a LOT of thoughts about this VIRUS but I won't elaborate here and now. What I will say is that it is so sad that this virus (with the help of our government) has so deeply divided people. For example, I have a friend that will no longer respond to my emails or texts and hasn't for over a year. The whole issue stemmed from one of his relatives dying from/with Covid 19 and I told him that I had four relatives that had Covid 19 and got over it. Yes, it kicked their butts but they are alive and well. He now views me as an ANTI-VAXXER. "How dare I endanger all of those people, who willing took the shot, by my careless, unvaxcinated lifestyle." Hmmm? Do I worry about getting Covid 19? You bet I do. I'm like a 45 acp. Short, fat and slow. I worry about getting the flu too. I have high BP so I try to be careful. I also have male pattern baldness, I'm not running out to buy a Capillus Laser Cap, so I'm also not rushing out to get the shot.
    All of this saddens me greatly that people cannot be civil and disagree with one another without all of the hate. Gee, I can remember when the biggest disagreement was if I drove a Chevy or a Ford! (for the record, I am a 45 acp guy)
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    No doubt that these have been some trying times. Hard to tell who to trust anymore. (Did I just say WHO, no I certainly don't trust them. Ha, ha.) One of the reasons I joined this site is to connect with folks that can be trusted. I have a LOT of thoughts about this VIRUS but I won't elaborate here and now. What I will say is that it is so sad that this virus (with the help of our government) has so deeply divided people. For example, I have a friend that will no longer respond to my emails or texts and hasn't for over a year. The whole issue stemmed from one of his relatives dying from/with Covid 19 and I told him that I had four relatives that had Covid 19 and got over it. Yes, it kicked their butts but they are alive and well. He now views me as an ANTI-VAXXER. "How dare I endanger all of those people, who willing took the shot, by my careless, unvaxcinated lifestyle." Hmmm? Do I worry about getting Covid 19? You bet I do. I'm like a 45 acp. Short, fat and slow. I worry about getting the flu too. I have high BP so I try to be careful. I also have male pattern baldness, I'm not running out to buy a Capillus Laser Cap, so I'm also not rushing out to get the shot.
    All of this saddens me greatly that people cannot be civil and disagree with one another without all of the hate. Gee, I can remember when the biggest disagreement was if I drove a Chevy or a Ford! (for the record, I am a 45 acp guy)
    That's what I hate the worst too. TPTB just keep introducing wedges to create conflict, not only between the "tribes" but within them as well.

    Now, I have to scold you for not hitting enter a few more times to create paragraphs that are easier to read.

    Having said that, since you're a short, fat, 45 acp guy, all is forgiven. And I think you may be my long lost twin! :):
     

    Denny347

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    None of those links rule it out. Seems like a lot of hemming and hawing about, "Well, we don't know for sure that it was caused by the vaccine."
    Kind of like the Autism from vax claims. Correlation does not equal causation. I'm not saying the vax ISN'T causing this. I just need to see something that would link it, other than timing.
     

    Denny347

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    Most of Denny's links say that there have been no studies to determine whether tinnitus can be a possible side effect.
    Indeed. The claim was that 60k people lost their hearing after the vaccine. Making a connection between the two when no connection has been established or proven and that connection is the basis of negative attitude towards that vaccine.
     

    jsharmon7

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    Kind of like the Autism from vax claims. Correlation does not equal causation. I'm not saying the vax ISN'T causing this. I just need to see something that would link it, other than timing.
    It sounds like you’re saying me eating 7 green Skittles a day until I got over Covid may have been a coincidence. That’s what Big Pharma wants you to believe. Wake up!
     

    Twangbanger

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    And remember there can be underlying issues that arent detected because they had no reason to be tested. Some of the kids who died did so from things like undiagnosed heart conditions. Nothing in their daily lives caused them to be screened. I mean, when was the last time you had your kid take a treadmill stress test? Of course you havent. You had no reason to.

    Now something comes along that inflames a perfectly normal heart and causes fatigue and other serious but not life threatening issues. Now apply that same swelling to an undiagnosed bad heart. Its like a bad car battery. Car starts fine, so you dont think anything of it. Then there is a cold snap and now the solenoid just clicks. The battery was bad, you just didnt know it until something minor stressed it.

    Edit: Some of these kids are probably the same ones that would drop dead during a HS sporting event and have to be revived by medics on hand for the game had Covid never happened. "Gee, we never suspected an enlarged heart. He seemed so healthy"
    "Perfectly Healthy" is mostly just newspeak for "Not Dead Yet." "One day he was perfectly healthy...the next he was dead." Well, you would be surprised how many deaths I've heard about that were just like that. The person had just not done anything really strenuous since they were a kid. A significant number of people are like ticking bombs, unfortunately. It is like playing Russian Roulette. The five times you get away with it, is what really screws you.

    I think it's incredibly instructive that the OVERALL death rate hasn't changed much as a result of COVID. It's a "thing," but nowhere near as big a deal as people are making of it. The fact it's totally new and likely created in a lab does definitely have some sexiness to it. But I for one believe we've gotten incredibly lucky on this one. The one that got out, didn't really change the death rate much. I just have to think there are worse things they're working on, and I really hope the laboratory community has learned a heck of a big lesson from this.
     

    miguel

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    It sounds like you’re saying me eating 7 green Skittles a day until I got over Covid may have been a coincidence. That’s what Big Pharma wants you to believe. Wake up!
    "Hey, are you trying to get over Covid or just happy to see me?"

    Oh wait, that's M&Ms... LOL
     

    tim87tr

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    "Perfectly Healthy" is mostly just newspeak for "Not Dead Yet." "One day he was perfectly healthy...the next he was dead." Well, you would be surprised how many deaths I've heard about that were just like that. The person had just not done anything really strenuous since they were a kid. A significant number of people are like ticking bombs, unfortunately. It is like playing Russian Roulette. The five times you get away with it, is what really screws you.

    I think it's incredibly instructive that the OVERALL death rate hasn't changed much as a result of COVID. It's a "thing," but nowhere near as big a deal as people are making of it. The fact it's totally new and likely created in a lab does definitely have some sexiness to it. But I for one believe we've gotten incredibly lucky on this one. The one that got out, didn't really change the death rate much. I just have to think there are worse things they're working on, and I really hope the laboratory community has learned a heck of a big lesson from this.
    Election flu and MSM fear porn was the setup. Scaring people into hurting or killing themselves with the vaccine bioweapon is the real depopulation agenda.

    I would invite anyone to watch this entire calm interview with Dr. Malone, inventor of the mRNA, and not have a new outlook on what has been done to the American people.

     

    Denny347

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    The media told us they would self censor and social media said they would censor the people, without the weasel words they would violate the code...
    Social media is garbage for sourcing science information. Media can be ok if you know how to sift through the source less information. However, Solid sources of information regarding COVID are not hard to find. There are lots of good science by legit medical schools/institutions going on.
     

    Denny347

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    Election flu and MSM fear porn was the setup. Scaring people into hurting or killing themselves with the vaccine bioweapon is the real depopulation agenda.

    I would invite anyone to watch this entire calm interview with Dr. Malone, inventor of the mRNA, and not have a new outlook on what has been done to the American people.

    Why should listen to him?
     

    Ingomike

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    Social media is garbage for sourcing science information. Media can be ok if you know how to sift through the source less information. However, Solid sources of information regarding COVID are not hard to find. There are lots of good science by legit medical schools/institutions going on.

    And just where do those "legit" get their orders and money? They all have gone along with what they have been told to go along with, including the flip flops...
     

    tim87tr

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    Why should listen to him?
    It's only an opportunity to hear from the inventor of the mRNA. Personally it was one of the most revealing videos I've watched, and there's many if you look at my posts. Everyone has an individual right to believe what they want, unlike the freedoms and livelihood being taken from them with the vax mandate not mandate push.
     

    Denny347

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    And just where do those "legit" get their orders and money? They all have gone along with what they have been told to go along with, including the flip flops...
    If you truly believe that there is NO source of information worth trusting then I suppose we will just have to leave it at that.
     
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