Vaccine coercion/bribery

[jamil]

Sorry I offended you with a sense of humor. I shall cease all humor at once as I know the Internet . . . is serious bidness.

I bring more good news:

India's COVID-19 daily deaths, cases lowest in months; world toll down 10% - UPI.com

India's current coronavirus situation is small fraction of record peaks several months ago: 4.4% of the deaths in June and 5.6% of the cases in May. Weekly global toll decreased 10% and infections 9%.

www.upi.com

Anymore I just assume anyone referring to ivermectin as “horse dewormer” in the context you did is retarded.

Yes. It can be used as horse dewormer, but far more doses have been given to humans as an anti-parasitic. The inventor’s Nobel Prize was not for its use in deworming horses. Of course all that doesn’t make it an antiviral treatment against covid either. It either works against covid or it doesn’t, and that is completely apart from its anti-parasitic uses. Lots of drugs have off-label uses. But calling it a horse-dewormer isn’t a valid argument against its use to treat covid either.

But, if you were merely pretending to be retarded as a joke… Okay? I guess? I suppose that’s a non-retarded usage. But it was a poor delivery, as it came off as the retarded reason to say it.

 

[jamil]

On a more serious note, Hatin, If we want to ingest pills, there are far better alternatives than livestock dewormer.

Merck's post-infection pill looks like the real deal:

Australia to buy Merck's COVID-19 pill, Victoria cases hit record

Australia will buy 300,000 courses of Merck & Co's experimental antiviral pill, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Tuesday, as Victoria logged the highest number of daily COVID-19 infections of any state in the country since the pandemic began.

www.reuters.com

Obviously doubling down on the retarded usage.

 

[jamil]

You know, there is someone out there that came in at the bottom of his class.

The reference to a Nobel prize for the treatment of parasitic infections in humans is an appeal to authority and a fallacious argument. Please provide a peer reviewed trial of Ivermectin for the treatment of Covid-19 infections.

True. Calling it a horse dewormer is also a fallacious argument. Not to mention, it’s retarded. The peer reviewed studies should indeed help settle it. Anymore though, I’m starting to doubt that something so politicized can have an objective study.

The building strength of peer reviewed evidence that natural immunity > vaccinated immunity, for example, seems not to matter. Studies that may say ivermectin can be viable against covid would just be dismissed as not credible by the people who have political or financial motivations for the outcome they want. And same for the other side.

“Science” appears to be broken these days. And that brings me to another thing I think is an indication of retardation. People who aren’t scientists saying stupid **** like, “follow the science,” is also retarded.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

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It's good to have you back!

 

[jamil]

Cool. Looks good to me. It would be useful for Doc or Chip to comment.

And this outlines a problem with these arguments on INGO. Really everywhere. And I’m not saying you do this, but calling for experts to opine on information, is the indicator for what I find wrong.

We need experts to interpret this **** because almost all of us don’t actually know the science. So we tend to find experts that say what we want to believe and we argue “the science” through the proxy of those experts. It’s like the climate change arguments. Who knew 97% of INGO political subforum participants are climate scientists and virologists too?

 

[jamil]

It's good to have you back!

Well. I’m still pretty busy these days. But just filling a Sunday morning with a little INGO time while I wait for my wife to wake up so we can go out to breakfast.

 

[Alpo]

And this outlines a problem with these arguments on INGO. Really everywhere. And I’m not saying you do this, but calling for experts to opine on information, is the indicator for what I find wrong.

We need experts to interpret this **** because almost all of us don’t actually know the science. So we tend to find experts that say what we want to believe and we argue “the science” through the proxy of those experts. It’s like the climate change arguments. Who knew 97% of INGO political subforum participants are climate scientists and virologists too?

Well, Shortbus, it was a study that attempted to pull together various projects looking at Ivermectin. I don't think of it as definitive in that regard. And I don't need to be a climate scientist to know that the small sample sizes used in the review and the non-random nature of their selection process does not yield conclusive evidence of the efficacy of Ivermectin.

However, the results they obtained are encouraging and should be investigated thoroughly by someone outside of the highly politicized USA bureaucracy.

ps. Coming in a week late to bayonet necroposts.....tsk tsk tsk

 

[jamil]

So, just because someone isn't "hands on" with patients then they aren't as knowledgeable or as you imply they don't care about people?

If a doctor has a private practice then somehow they're immune form the crazy politics that is drowning us all?



Not buying it.

No. Some doctors blindly follow their associations’ recommendations, even when it’s not in the best interest of the individual patient. Some doctors are bat **** crazy believers in alternative medicine that aren’t really much more than snake oil. Those are two ends of the spectrum. No one is immune from believing delusions at least a little.

 

[jamil]

Well, Shortbus, it was a study that attempted to pull together various projects looking at Ivermectin. I don't think of it as definitive in that regard. And I don't need to be a climate scientist to know that the small sample sizes used in the review and the non-random nature of their selection process does not yield conclusive evidence of the efficacy of Ivermectin.

However, the results they obtained is encouraging and should be investigated thoroughly by someone outside of the highly politicized USA bureaucracy.

ps. Coming in a week late to bayonet necroposts.....tsk tsk tsk

You didn’t address the point. It seems like you addressed the point I said I wasn’t making. It wasn’t a bayonet. A reply to my point shouldn’t require the knob to be turned past 3.

 

[Alpo]

 

[jsharmon7]

2019 pre planned & here is the proof !

I’m assuming most people aren’t actually watching this video. If they are, they’re twisting it to be something it’s not.

Imagine being good at your job and telling people something bad is eventually going to happen and that people aren’t taking it seriously and therefore aren’t spending the money to get ahead of it. The bad thing happens and people start saying you planned the bad thing. They say you’re an evil CCP plant trying to help globalists take over the world. All because you spent your life in a given field and knew the bad thing was absolutely going to happen, and had almost happened a few years earlier except we got lucky. They use your warning as evidence of something nefarious. That would be frustrating I bet.

The same thing happened on Wall Street in 2008. A few smart people saw the bubble was about to burst and invested heavily on it. Then it burst, just like they thought. Is that proof they planned it, or were just smart people who knew it was bound to happen?

 

[jamil]

Horse dewormer is great for parasites, harmful for treating a virus.

The notion that it is effective against Covid-19 is nonsense peddled by grifters.

Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drug

Thousands worldwide have taken ivermectin to fight Covid. But what's the evidence?

www.bbc.com

Ivermectin is not any more harmful for treating covid as it is for treating parasites. I’m not an expert in these kinds of things, but I believe it’s reasonable to suspect that your body doesn’t give a flying **** why that stuff is in you. It just is, and it has whatever positive and negative effects it has. There isn’t any evidence that taking it with covid makes it extra-special poisonous.

hundreds of millions of doses have been given to people for parasites with fewer than 6K adverse reactions. Ibuprofin has a higher rate of adverse reactions. Both are fairly safe when used in proper doses. I’m not advocating that people take ivermectin. I’m advocating that people stop being intentionally retarded.

So maybe you can calm down a bit. Almost no one is taking horse dewormer. That story turned out to be mostly ********. It was a few people in Missippi. Believe me. I lives in Missippi, and I know people do much worse than that there. My boss bragged about finding some antibiotics in the dumpster behind Walmart and taking them home just in case.

But as for nearly all the people taking ivermectin, they are taking human doses of parasite medicine intended for humans, to treat/prevent covid. And maybe that’s ineffective. But also it is not all that dangerous if people are taking it as instructed, albeit off label.

 

[Leadeye]

"Science" is following the money, just like anything else.

In simple cases, science wins out, if Mr. Bezos jumps off a building because he doesn't believe that gravity applies to him, he'll recieve a rather quick and rude correction. Science though, in Covid, isn't simple and solid answers are both expensive and elusive if they are even out there at all. Unlike many diseases in the past, this one has only been around a short time, but the number and type of "science" solutions changes rather quickly. It's a feast for political leadership, crazy big media, and smart opportunists making a buck while it lasts.

 

[jamil]

Okay.

Here’s whatya do. If my posts upset you, you don’t even have to go through the trouble of putting me on ignore. Just scroll past. Problem solved. Or. Have your personal physician adjust your blood pressure medication. Maybe that’ll make you less grumpy. Or maybe go make some music. Music soothes the soul. Don’t let a post on the internet ruin your day. Be well.

 

[jamil]

I’m assuming most people aren’t actually watching this video. If they are, they’re twisting it to be something it’s not.

Imagine being good at your job and telling people something bad is eventually going to happen and that people aren’t taking it seriously and therefore aren’t spending the money to get ahead of it. The bad thing happens and people start saying you planned the bad thing. They say you’re an evil CCP plant trying to help globalists take over the world. All because you spent your life in a given field and knew the bad thing was absolutely going to happen, and had almost happened a few years earlier except we got lucky. They use your warning as evidence of something nefarious. That would be frustrating I bet.

The same thing happened on Wall Street in 2008. A few smart people saw the bubble was about to burst and invested heavily on it. Then it burst, just like they thought. Is that proof they planned it, or were just smart people who knew it was bound to happen?

Reasonable. Except the “good at your job part.” Wasn’t Fauci the guy behind pushing AZT treatment for aids that killed a bunch of people?

 

[phylodog]

I’m assuming most people aren’t actually watching this video. If they are, they’re twisting it to be something it’s not.

Some people choose to look at everything in a vacuum. This video, standing on it's own with no knowledge of what has happened over the past 18 months might seem benign. Like everything else, I consider it along with everything else I've seen or read from both sides. I'm not claiming this is proof of anything but it certainly adds to the mountains of circumstantial evidence that something is going on and we are being lied to.

I don't know what it is, maybe it is for the good of humanity or maybe it is for the good of a few but there is undoubtedly something going on and if "they" want compliance "they" are going to have to come clean or make it make sense before people like myself are going to comply.

It does not make sense.

 

[buckwacker]

Some people choose to look at everything in a vacuum. This video, standing on it's own with no knowledge of what has happened over the past 18 months might seem benign. Like everything else, I consider it along with everything else I've seen or read from both sides. I'm not claiming this is proof of anything but it certainly adds to the mountains of circumstantial evidence that something is going on and we are being lied to.

I don't know what it is, maybe it is for the good of humanity or maybe it is for the good of a few but there is undoubtedly something going on and if "they" want compliance "they" are going to have to come clean or make it make sense before people like myself are going to comply.

It does not make sense.

Yep.

 

[jsharmon7]

Some people choose to look at everything in a vacuum. This video, standing on it's own with no knowledge of what has happened over the past 18 months might seem benign. Like everything else, I consider it along with everything else I've seen or read from both sides. I'm not claiming this is proof of anything but it certainly adds to the mountains of circumstantial evidence that something is going on and we are being lied to.

I don't know what it is, maybe it is for the good of humanity or maybe it is for the good of a few but there is undoubtedly something going on and if "they" want compliance "they" are going to have to come clean or make it make sense before people like myself are going to comply.

It does not make sense.

In a previous life, were you ever told to keep an eye out for a certain vehicle linked to a crime? A green Nissan Sentra was used in a shooting, maybe. Suddenly there are green Sentras everywhere you turn? I think there’s a lot of that going on lately.

 

[Ingomike]

I’m assuming most people aren’t actually watching this video. If they are, they’re twisting it to be something it’s not.

Imagine being good at your job and telling people something bad is eventually going to happen and that people aren’t taking it seriously and therefore aren’t spending the money to get ahead of it. The bad thing happens and people start saying you planned the bad thing. They say you’re an evil CCP plant trying to help globalists take over the world. All because you spent your life in a given field and knew the bad thing was absolutely going to happen, and had almost happened a few years earlier except we got lucky. They use your warning as evidence of something nefarious. That would be frustrating I bet.

The same thing happened on Wall Street in 2008. A few smart people saw the bubble was about to burst and invested heavily on it. Then it burst, just like they thought. Is that proof they planned it, or were just smart people who knew it was bound to happen?

The analogy does not work because the Fauc funded the gain of function of the virus. Those predicting the stock market crash would have needed to be invoking the creation of the crash to be similar...

 

[BugI02]

ps. Coming in a week late to bayonet necroposts.....tsk tsk tsk

If those posts wanted to live a week was plenty of time to crawl off the battlefield and find a medic