littletommy
Grandmaster
True, but generally, the person being stopped is being an ass. I’m guessing NOT being an ass significantly increases your chance of not getting shot?But it only takes one bad encounter to cost someone their life.
True, but generally, the person being stopped is being an ass. I’m guessing NOT being an ass significantly increases your chance of not getting shot?But it only takes one bad encounter to cost someone their life.
Try driving through podunk returning from Knob Creek with a van loaded with ammo, machine guns and .50 BMG target rifles... and not realizing you have a cracked tail light lens...All the politeness, or whatever the opposite of being an ass is, in the world won't satisfy the local Barney Fife. Just saying, sometimes it's not the citizen, it's the leo. Bring the laws up to date, elect good leaders, invest in proper training, raise the standards, and vet the applicants.True, but generally, the person being stopped is being an ass. I’m guessing NOT being an ass significantly increases your chance of not getting shot?
That is unreadable. Paragraphs and the return key are your friends.I believe it's time for the legislature to amend the laws pertaining to unmarked LEO vehicles, uniformed officers, ghost lettering, pursuit rules, and recording stops. A lot could be accomplished by requiring cameras on every policeman and LEO vehicle that records to the cloud automatically and notifies the base whenever the camera is turned off. If every word and action is sent automatically to the cloud and the public knows it is accessible, both parties will be careful and less likely to misbehave. Require officers out of uniform to observe only until a uniformed officer in a marked car can arrive and make the stop. If you are on duty, wear the uniform unless working undercover on a specific assignment not related to traffic stops. If you are not on duty, barring an emergency situation, you are not working. My barber doesn't go around cutting hair while he is at the grocery just because someone needs it... If your car is marked, make it marked well enough to be recognized 100 feet away. Define exactly what goal is to be accomplished by having unmarked cars for traffic duty. Our small town was cursed for a few years with the chief constable, head honcho or whatever title he had, pulling people over while he was wearing nothing but cutoff shorts, flip flops and a gun while driving his own unmarked car or truck. He spent his time at the local diner bragging about looking down some girls blouse or speaking about wanting to pull some hottie over in the dark and having his way with her. One poor soul complained to the local paper and he and his employees were pulled over several times in the next two weeks. There needs to be a citizens board to lodge complaints to and investigate. Not a police dominated board with one citizen. Too many times the police have lost sight of their purpose, to protect and serve. As we have seen recently, like during the downtown riots, the local police did not protect persons or property, and didn't serve the community. Correcting this starts with the legislature, moves on to the executive branch...like the mayors office. Then down through the ranks to the individual officers. Fortunately, most of my encounters with LEO's has been without drama. But it only takes one bad encounter to cost someone their life.
I got about a third of the way through the post. Sheesh!That is unreadable. Paragraphs and the return key are your friends.
If you find this unreadable, then don't read it. If you are just dissatisfied with the proper sentence and paragraph structure but still comprehend the ideas I was trying to convey, then It's good enough for me.That is unreadable. Paragraphs and the return key are your friends.
It took him about 8 months to get his hand completely healed. Luckily no bones were broken. All around the middle of the fingers it was split open across the tops down the sides and up the other side on all fingers and his thumb. It smashed the meat until it burst. He has tingling and very little feeling in his little finger the rest came back like normal. He's in his upper 20's so he healed back really good considering the damage done.Got away with just a slap on the hand... sorry, had to do it, that slow pitch was just too tempting. Hope your son came out of that OK.
I'm old enough to lecture your lazy disrespectful ass. If you're gonna try and communicate your ideas and expect them to be taken seriously, respect your reader enough to use proper punctuation, and structure the prose so it is easy to read. Otherwise you're wasting your time and ours.If you find this unreadable, then don't read it. If you are just dissatisfied with the proper sentence and paragraph structure but still comprehend the ideas I was trying to convey, then It's good enough for me.
If you are also the plainclothes proper prose police, then either issue the ticket or let me go because I'm too old to be lectured on issues of little import.
I didn't read it, when I said unreadable, I meant it. Maybe you should take it as good advice. If you are communicating, it is on the communicator to do it in a manner that conveys the message.If you find this unreadable, then don't read it. If you are just dissatisfied with the proper sentence and paragraph structure but still comprehend the ideas I was trying to convey, then It's good enough for me.
If you are also the plainclothes proper prose police, then either issue the ticket or let me go because I'm too old to be lectured on issues of little import.
A. No, I think they decided to go a different way.I believe it's time for the legislature to amend the laws pertaining to unmarked LEO vehicles, uniformed officers, ghost lettering, pursuit rules, and recording stops. A lot could be accomplished by requiring cameras on every policeman and LEO vehicle that records to the cloud automatically and notifies the base whenever the camera is turned off. If every word and action is sent automatically to the cloud and the public knows it is accessible, both parties will be careful and less likely to misbehave. Require officers out of uniform to observe only until a uniformed officer in a marked car can arrive and make the stop. If you are on duty, wear the uniform unless working undercover on a specific assignment not related to traffic stops. If you are not on duty, barring an emergency situation, you are not working. My barber doesn't go around cutting hair while he is at the grocery just because someone needs it... If your car is marked, make it marked well enough to be recognized 100 feet away. Define exactly what goal is to be accomplished by having unmarked cars for traffic duty. Our small town was cursed for a few years with the chief constable, head honcho or whatever title he had, pulling people over while he was wearing nothing but cutoff shorts, flip flops and a gun while driving his own unmarked car or truck. He spent his time at the local diner bragging about looking down some girls blouse or speaking about wanting to pull some hottie over in the dark and having his way with her. One poor soul complained to the local paper and he and his employees were pulled over several times in the next two weeks. There needs to be a citizens board to lodge complaints to and investigate. Not a police dominated board with one citizen. Too many times the police have lost sight of their purpose, to protect and serve. As we have seen recently, like during the downtown riots, the local police did not protect persons or property, and didn't serve the community. Correcting this starts with the legislature, moves on to the executive branch...like the mayors office. Then down through the ranks to the individual officers. Fortunately, most of my encounters with LEO's has been without drama. But it only takes one bad encounter to cost someone their life.
I think he left out the f in If....lol
Nah, I'll just bat my eyes and flash a little cleavage.
I believe it's time for the legislature to amend the laws pertaining to unmarked LEO vehicles, uniformed officers, ghost lettering, pursuit rules, and recording stops. A lot could be accomplished by requiring cameras on every policeman and LEO vehicle that records to the cloud automatically and notifies the base whenever the camera is turned off. If every word and action is sent automatically to the cloud and the public knows it is accessible, both parties will be careful and less likely to misbehave. Require officers out of uniform to observe only until a uniformed officer in a marked car can arrive and make the stop. If you are on duty, wear the uniform unless working undercover on a specific assignment not related to traffic stops. If you are not on duty, barring an emergency situation, you are not working. My barber doesn't go around cutting hair while he is at the grocery just because someone needs it... If your car is marked, make it marked well enough to be recognized 100 feet away. Define exactly what goal is to be accomplished by having unmarked cars for traffic duty. Our small town was cursed for a few years with the chief constable, head honcho or whatever title he had, pulling people over while he was wearing nothing but cutoff shorts, flip flops and a gun while driving his own unmarked car or truck. He spent his time at the local diner bragging about looking down some girls blouse or speaking about wanting to pull some hottie over in the dark and having his way with her. One poor soul complained to the local paper and he and his employees were pulled over several times in the next two weeks. There needs to be a citizens board to lodge complaints to and investigate. Not a police dominated board with one citizen. Too many times the police have lost sight of their purpose, to protect and serve. As we have seen recently, like during the downtown riots, the local police did not protect persons or property, and didn't serve the community. Correcting this starts with the legislature, moves on to the executive branch...like the mayors office. Then down through the ranks to the individual officers. Fortunately, most of my encounters with LEO's has been without drama. But it only takes one bad encounter to cost someone their life.
Try driving through podunk returning from Knob Creek with a van loaded with ammo, machine guns and .50 BMG target rifles... and not realizing you have a cracked tail light lens...All the politeness, or whatever the opposite of being an ass is, in the world won't satisfy the local Barney Fife. Just saying, sometimes it's not the citizen, it's the leo. Bring the laws up to date, elect good leaders, invest in proper training, raise the standards, and vet the applicants.
If you find this unreadable, then don't read it. If you are just dissatisfied with the proper sentence and paragraph structure but still comprehend the ideas I was trying to convey, then It's good enough for me.
If you are also the plainclothes proper prose police, then either issue the ticket or let me go because I'm too old to be lectured on issues of little import.
True, but generally, the person being stopped is being an ass. I’m guessing NOT being an ass significantly increases your chance of not getting shot?
If you find this unreadable, then don't read it. If you are just dissatisfied with the proper sentence and paragraph structure but still comprehend the ideas I was trying to convey, then It's good enough for me.
If you are also the plainclothes proper prose police, then either issue the ticket or let me go because I'm too old to be lectured on issues of little import.
So what do you suggest if a person is in this situation at night especially?
The lights are what annoy me.
Most unmarked cars have such dim or near impossible to see lights, it just seems like some wacko is tailgating you.
Light bars exist for a reason and should be used.
I'll most likely never be in those situations. Being in the country and driving down state roads, back roads or Hwy 50 is about it. So it's usually a Sheriff Deputy or State Trooper around my area. We have a few unmarked mustangs, but about everyone around here knows them already. I usually never drive at night unless it's an emergency or something different happening like relatives visiting and taking them out to eat, or going coon hunting.I think most folks tend to only consider the part of law enforcement they are familiar with, local or state police stopping for traffic infractions. It's outside your experience that federal agencies make traffic stops and don't even have marked cars as an option and don't have uniforms. It's outside your experience that traffic stops aren't always about traffic infractions, they can be major felony warrants, robbery suspects, etc. So you want to provide rules for the situations you are familiar with without learning what you don't know.
I've told the story here before but doing surveillance for a serial robbery suspect, the three vehicles that ended up stopping the suspect immediately after committing a robbery were an unmarked SUV (Tahoe, maybe? Don't remember any longer), a Chrysler 300C, a Ford Fusion, and a Dodge Charger (me) and a mix of local officers and FBI agents. A butt ton of marked cars showed up pretty quickly, but there was no marked car at the initial attempt to stop the suspects. Sitting around pharmacies waiting for them to be robbed isn't really something that can be done in plainly marked vehicles...
Is it a rare crime or is it happening often?
Okay I was thinking that because you don't here about it often. So basically in my area it's legitimate 99.99% of the time. Around here we have some bad crimes but it's rare, and random which is why you need to be alert to all situations that involve strangers.It's very rare. Impersonators do exist, but they are generally looking for the power trip and get off on pretending to be the police so they can "road rage" at people with an air of authority. As far as pretending to do traffic stops to commit robberies or violent crime, like probably Powerball odds. I've literally never worked one nor seen one come through our office while I was there. It's just too much logistics for something that's much easier accomplished by other means.
Slightly higher odds for home invasion robberies pretending to be police raids if you're a dope dealer.