To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

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  • BugI02

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    Yes, that's why I want to emphasize the death count. No matter how it was inflated or spun, a simple check on annual death numbers from the CDC show roughly 3 million die every year, no matter how the death is categorized. I realize the CDC can play number games too, but it'd be towards the "scary" direction, and the best they've come up with is a half million to date, which even if true, is a small fraction of a percent of the US population.

    And yes, I know the horse is dead and it's a bloody pulp, but it's printed plainly on Their website. They actually say an additional 375,000 deaths in 2020 are attributed to what is called Covid-19. Yes, other categories of death are lumped into this.


    So rolling into 2021, it seems like a good discussion fact instead of manufactured hysteria for nefarious reasons. I did go back to try and find the annual deaths on INGO, but wasn't successful. Had a couple drive-by comments that didn't address this number.

    I do think a lot of people had a gain of function modified flu, and many had rough symptoms, but How Many Died? Going forward, a lot of people will be quite upset that they lost their freedoms in the last year, were lied to by many, and duped into taking an experimental shot which according to the numbers(inflated or not), was nothing more than a bad flu year. Not living your life in fear and having some grit would be a nice start going forward.

    Thank you for allowing me to get this off my chest.
    I would just caution against accepting anything other than total deaths from all causes compared to previous total deaths from all causes, which were increasing annually at an average rate of about +1.2% from 2016 on.

    The CDC cite in your post mentions something called 'age-adjusted death' in the partial text displayed with the link. Not interested in parsing what that is, but earlier in this mess they were harping on 'excess death' which turned out to be any death in a week that exceeded what their model predicted would be the death in that week such that in a given multi-week period you could have no increase in total death but if some of those weeks had higher numbers than modeled they could natter about total 'excess death'

    We all know how good their models were
     

    tim87tr

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    I would just caution against accepting anything other than total deaths from all causes compared to previous total deaths from all causes, which were increasing annually at an average rate of about +1.2% from 2016 on.

    The CDC cite in your post mentions something called 'age-adjusted death' in the partial text displayed with the link. Not interested in parsing what that is, but earlier in this mess they were harping on 'excess death' which turned out to be any death in a week that exceeded what their model predicted would be the death in that week such that in a given multi-week period you could have no increase in total death but if some of those weeks had higher numbers than modeled they could natter about total 'excess death'

    We all know how good their models were
    Yes, I agree. That's what I'm trying to highlight, total deaths in the US per year. It barely changed, roughly 3 mil. I pointed out that the virus danger proponents best big scary number of excess deaths, even mathematically using their own numbers, only amounts to 0.1x percent.

    My overall point was I feel this is a really important fact that doesn't get much attention? Everything beyond the fact of having very little excess annual deaths seems to be disingenuous. Yes I understand how it all works with MSM, political, big pharmacy, social and economic, but the total death number remains mostly unchanged.

    From this point forward, if the death count does trend up... from vaccine side effects, it would be blamed on a positive PCR test....I think everyone mostly agrees on false positives. So much associated with an annual flu+ (+ = probable manipulation) at so many medical levels has been monetized. INGO says....follow the $$.
     

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    Even California is opening up now (and companies are following suit). As of yesterday, I no longer have to wear a mask in public areas of my hotel while I'm here. First time in the year that I've been coming here.
     

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    Wear your mask or I’ll get super close and fist fight you!

    Well yeah. It’s stupid to fight over masks. The idiot with the bat is a real ignorant douchebag. I mean to enforce a store policy with a bat is not what I’d think Ace Hardware expects. It’s Seattle though, so anything is possible. But. When you see the sign on the door, if you don’t like their policies, leave. And, okay. Maybe go in anyway and see if they actually care. And if they enforce the policies and ask you to leave, leave. It’s trespassing beyond that. See? It was within their power all along not to be assaulted by an overzealous idiot douchebag with a bat, who foolishly thinks a person without a mask must be met with physical force.

    Everyone was the douchebag in that video. The camera dude maybe was the biggest. When the guy’s buddy is getting his ass beat, he just records it? Oh. Wait. He called the bat guy a *****. Real brave. They all deserve adjoining rooms in douchebag hell.
     

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    chipbennett

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    Well yeah. It’s stupid to fight over masks. The idiot with the bat is a real ignorant douchebag. I mean to enforce a store policy with a bat is not what I’d think Ace Hardware expects. It’s Seattle though, so anything is possible. But. When you see the sign on the door, if you don’t like their policies, leave. And, okay. Maybe go in anyway and see if they actually care. And if they enforce the policies and ask you to leave, leave. It’s trespassing beyond that. See? It was within their power all along not to be assaulted by an overzealous idiot douchebag with a bat, who foolishly thinks a person without a mask must be met with physical force.

    Everyone was the douchebag in that video. The camera dude maybe was the biggest. When the guy’s buddy is getting his ass beat, he just records it? Oh. Wait. He called the bat guy a *****. Real brave. They all deserve adjoining rooms in douchebag hell.
    I'll go out on a limb, and opine that enforcing mere store policy with a baseball bat is an unlawful use/threat of use of force.

    I'll go out farther on that limb, and opine that enforcing a lawful trespass with a baseball bat is also an unlawful use/threat of use of force.
     
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