It begins...

[jamil]

I didn't vote for McCain for President, because of his historical support for universal background checks. I didn't vote for Romney for President, because he signed an assault weapons ban in Massachusetts. I will not knowingly vote for a proponent of gun control.

Trump presents a problem in this respect. He vowed to support the 2nd, so he got my first vote. Then he f'd us with bumpstocks and his open support for red flag laws (which I don't support, and which we've had here long before he came along, I think).

Well, I figure he's going to be overruled by the courts on the bumpstock deal, and his rhetoric about the red flag laws, while offensive, did not dissuade me from voting (grudgingly) for him a second time, because his illogical opinion is not law, even though it may have encouraged others to make law.

Biden is a known advocate for disarming the citizenry, contrary to the basic protections enshrined in the Bill of Rights. There is absolutely no way I could vote for him. Every one of his positions harms the Republic, in deep and meaninful ways. It's frustrating to see people place their emotional beliefs above their constitutional protections, and to see they will not accept reason over emotion.

That's not a given. I hope it does get overruled by the courts. If the courts uphold it that sets a very dangerous precedent that Democrats are dying to use.

 

[jamil]

So, are you all just gonna turn in your ar-15s, and magazines over 10 rnds? how is this gonna work exactly...

It's possible that if such legislation were enacted that some states would just nullify it. The federal government has the power to regulate interstate commerce. I think it has the constitutional authority to ban the manufacture and sale of specific weapons across state lines, but does not have the authority to prevent ownership of firearms.

To be clear, this is a "should" statement and not an "is" statement. In the practical sense the government has the authority to do whatever it can get away with. Trump tried to get away with redefining a plastic add-on accessory as an actual machine gun. If he gets away with it, then the government now has that authority, regardless of what laws and the constitution says. Biden will try to get away with some **** too. No doubt.

 

[JTScribe]

I’m aware of only a few members who voted for Biden. CampingJosh, Kut, and probably Paul F. I don’t know why it’s necessary to continue to harp on that other than that it’s someone to blame. But Indiana’s electors did not go to Biden, they went to Trump. So if you insist that it’s their fault, even though their vote did not actually contribute to Biden’s election, it’s really an identitarian argument.

"Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty."

 

[jamil]

"Each snowflake in an avalanche pleads not guilty."

That's obviously more relevant in states which had a chance to go either way.

 

[tude]

But they wanted it. That is the burn.

 

[BigRed]

I didn't vote for McCain for President, because of his historical support for universal background checks. I didn't vote for Romney for President, because he signed an assault weapons ban in Massachusetts. I will not knowingly vote for a proponent of gun control.

Trump presents a problem in this respect. He vowed to support the 2nd, so he got my first vote. Then he f'd us with bumpstocks and his open support for red flag laws (which I don't support, and which we've had here long before he came along, I think).

Well, I figure he's going to be overruled by the courts on the bumpstock deal, and his rhetoric about the red flag laws, while offensive, did not dissuade me from voting (grudgingly) for him a second time, because his illogical opinion is not law, even though it may have encouraged others to make law.

Biden is a known advocate for disarming the citizenry, contrary to the basic protections enshrined in the Bill of Rights. There is absolutely no way I could vote for him. Every one of his positions harms the Republic, in deep and meaninful ways. It's frustrating to see people place their emotional beliefs above their constitutional protections, and to see they will not accept reason over emotion.

It was an easy solution: Vote Jorgensen

 

[d.kaufman]

 

[DoggyDaddy]

 

[MCgrease08]

White House Confirms Biden Will Sign Gun Control Executive Orders

White House press secretary Jen Psaki confirmed Friday that President Joe Biden intends to sign executive orders instituting increased gun control.

dailycaller.com

 

[printcraft]

White House Confirms Biden Will Sign Gun Control Executive Orders

White House press secretary Jen Psaki confirmed Friday that President Joe Biden intends to sign executive orders instituting increased gun control.

dailycaller.com

Since I don't work for the government bidet can stick his executive orders in his wazoo.
#notmypresident

 

[DoggyDaddy]

White House Confirms Biden Will Sign Gun Control Executive Orders

White House press secretary Jen Psaki confirmed Friday that President Joe Biden intends to sign executive orders instituting increased gun control.

dailycaller.com

“I’m disappointed he has the nerve and audacity to say he’s going to do things in sequential order,” said Brady: United Against Gun Violence Vice President Maisha Fields. “It’s out of order to have to bury your child. It’s out of order to be shopping for eggs and to have your life disrupted.”

 

[KG1]

“I’m disappointed he has the nerve and audacity to say he’s going to do things in sequential order,” said Brady: United Against Gun Violence Vice President Maisha Fields. “It’s out of order to have to bury your child. It’s out of order to be shopping for eggs and to have your life disrupted.”

I'm way beyond disappointed about having the nerve and audacity to try and take away my means to defend myself and my family. It's out of order to be shopping for eggs and have my life disrupted by not having the means to protect myself and my family.

YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.

 

[cbhausen]

**** you Biden and the horse you rode in on you filthy **********.

#notmy****ingpresident

 

[billybob44]

I think maybe you might consider taking a chill pill. Yer getting worked up. I get it. I'm pissed about gun control too. But that's no reason to lose your handle on reality.

Sounds nice for you to say-but-Sig is right on point.
The loss on "reality" may be on you??..

 

[Chewie]

I don't want to let this point slip by without emphasis because it's so important. I believe the protections guaranteed by the Bill of rights should be the primary issue for anyone who believes in the fundamental concepts of our Republic. In general, without all of them, we are powerless against our government, and specifically without the Second Amendment, we would lack the teeth to defend the rest of our rights. If we ever lose the Second, the rest aren't far behind. This is demonstrable in the history of many countries. Not ancient history, but very very recent history. And if we lose the Second, it will be difficult, if not impossible, to ever get it back.

I question not only the intelligence, but also the sanity of anyone who would place their social or emotional beliefs above the importance of the Bill of Rights.

If you have 11 minutes, I encourage you to view the following video (if I didn't F up the board code). I hope Americans never have to produce a similar video.

Beat me to it. I was going to add basically the same thoughts. This is a gun forum, thus the 2A focus. Unfortunately that is where the top of the spear to be used to destroy the constitution is being pointed. The edges of the spear head are already trying to cut into other amendments. Those that voted for the idiot (nationwide) did not look at the overall intent of the left. The only defense they seem to put up is they were not single issue voters. They completely disregarded the overall intent. Showing a lack of foresight or knowledge of historical trends. This is the problem. The whole constitution needs to be defended as vigorously as this forum defends the 2A. The 2A is only more visible piece of what they want to conquer!
I will now return to my chair with popcorn and coffee (only because alcohol really messes with my diabetes).

 

[BigRed]

Those in Indiana that voted for this had no impact on the Indiana electoral votes.

Nonetheless, it bears witness to their values.

While my vote also had no impact on the Indiana electoral votes, I did vote my values. To be clear, I did not vote for either candidate of the uniparty.

Still, at a bare minimum, when my children and grandchildren ask how I voted I can honestly say I voted for a candidate that most closely represented my values....and while the candidate lost, my conscience won.

 

[jamil]

Sounds nice for you to say-but-Sig is right on point.
The loss on "reality" may be on you??..

Nah. I’m not the one full of ****.

 

[Tombs]

Nah. I’m not the one full of ****.

This isn't a oil pipe line we're talking about.

This is about whether police come and shoot you or not solely because of owning property that was completely legal a moment ago.

 

[jamil]

This isn't a oil pipe line we're talking about.

This is about whether police come and shoot you or not solely because of owning property that was completely legal a moment ago.

No. This isn’t about that. This is about you guys saying people said **** they didn’t say. If it were just about 0biden’s confiscation wet dream I would be agreeing with you.

 

[BigRed]

**** you Biden and the horse you rode in on you filthy **********.

#notmy****ingpresident

Leave the horse alone.

Joe? NFG