You don't need a dually

[Longhair]

Don't we have a DOT officer on the forum (DOT Chief) I think ?

Just cause you can don't mean you should.

 

[Fargo]

39000 lbs is 16000 over the rating of a 3500hd dually. The truck not being a dually is far down on my list of concerns. I'd pull that load across my yard like that but that's about it. Posting on the web about taking it on the road is sumpthin else...

 

[Frosty]

Others have already mentioned the serious issues, no pick up truck tires are made to handle that weight. The straps are rated at approximately 2,000 lbs each so the tie downs are seriously inadequate. I'm a cdl driver, I drive a Kenworth T300 flatbed straight truck, it has a gvwr of 32,000 lbs. That's a single axle with air brakes and no tag axle, and 11R 22.5 tires at 120 psi! That weight, for those that done know includes the truck at 21,000 and some change. If I strapped that load on and wrecked and someone died, I'd go to jail. A semi truck is generally loaded 12,000 on the front axle, 36,000 over the drive tandems, and 12,000 over the trailer tandems. You can be fined for improper load distribution. You should really reconsider your equipment.

 

[printcraft]

Look, the egyptians moved bigger pieces of stone than that every day.
If people 1000's of years ago can handle it surely there is nothing to worry about.

 

[17 squirrel]

Look, the egyptians moved bigger pieces of stone than that every day.
If people 1000's of years ago can handle it surely there is nothing to worry about.

You lazy this morning ??
You forgot the Madonna cone bra " walk like a Egyptian " video..

 

[printcraft]

You lazy this morning ??
You forgot the Madonna cone bra " walk like a Egyptian " video..

Up late with some rock work, still needing much coffee.

 

[Brandon]

Up late with some rock work, still needing much coffee.

Here ya go

 

[printcraft]

Tried that once, it exceeded the weight capacity of my bladder.

 

[Brandon]

This any better?

 

[long coat]

The straps look like the 2 in wide ones. Most of that size are rated 10K lbs. The trailer is rated 20K lbs. , but that includes the weight of the trailer.

What do the rocks weigh?

 

[Fargo]

The straps look like the 2 in wide ones. Most of that size are rated 10K lbs. The trailer is rated 20K lbs. , but that includes the weight of the trailer.

What do the rocks weigh?

I think they are 10k breaking strength, 3,333 lb working load.

 

[Bigtanker]

The straps look like the 2 in wide ones. Most of that size are rated 10K lbs. The trailer is rated 20K lbs. , but that includes the weight of the trailer.

What do the rocks weigh?

I pulled flatbed for a while. A 4" strap has a working load limit is 5,400 pounds. The 2" is 3,300 lbs.

 

[blackenedman]

Really, the rating (no markings visible) of the nylon is only part of the problem.

That stone would saw thru that nylon in no time, not to mention there's no way you could put enough tension on it with a hand operated ratchet.

I keep hoping the op will pop in and yell "April fool!" or something...

 

[Bigtanker]

I haven't even thought if this load would require a CDL or not. The trailer looks heavy enough to require one. And if he is pulling around other heavy equipment for work, I think it is required.

 

[Brandon]

I haven't even thought if this load would require a CDL or not. The trailer looks heavy enough to require one. And if he is pulling around other heavy equipment for work, I think it is required.

According to this website he would.
DOT Mandates May Apply When Using Trailers - Articles - Safety & Accident - Articles - Work Truck

over 26k lbs a cdl is needed, over 10k lbs he needs a DOT #.

 

[IndyDave1776]

The straps look like the 2 in wide ones. Most of that size are rated 10K lbs. The trailer is rated 20K lbs. , but that includes the weight of the trailer.

What do the rocks weigh?

You might want to do some more research here. All of the 16K gross weight/12K load rated trailers I pulled had the same wheels you would put on a 3/4 ton pickup with E-rated tires, and that was brand new from the factory.

According to this website he would.
DOT Mandates May Apply When Using Trailers - Articles - Safety & Accident - Articles - Work Truck

over 26k lbs a cdl is needed, over 10k lbs he needs a DOT #.

What makes you think he doesn't?

 

[Brandon]

What makes you think he doesn't?

The picture.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I think they are 10k breaking strength, 3,333 lb working load.

You have to remember that they are being used to apply downpressure, not to lift the load, therefore gravity and friction are taken into account for the math, and so is having a structure that qualifies as a bulkhead. That said, according to the DOT one strap or grade 70 chain per 10,000 lbs is the requirement of the day.

 

[JEDenny]

DOT ever take notice? Whats the tag weight on the truck? Are you just a little over?

 

[Fargo]

You have to remember that they are being used to apply downpressure, not to lift the load, therefore gravity and friction are taken into account for the math, and so is having a structure that qualifies as a bulkhead. That said, according to the DOT one strap or grade 70 chain per 10,000 lbs is the requirement of the day.

Wasn't speaking to their adequacy, only to their rating. They clearly weren't 2k straps. WLL of tie downs is much different than that for overhead lift. If memory serves, tie down is 1/3 and overhead is 1/5 or 1/6.