Uvalde Texas Killing

[Creedmoor]

We know, for a fact, that 5.56 or most AR calibers for that matter are not immediately fatal if hit anywhere other than directly though lungs/heart/head. it’s one of the reasons that stop the bleed courses have become so prevalent. Let’s face it despite the fact that everyone likes AR’s they are not an immediate stopper.

There is a reason it’s not legal or ethical to deer hunt with in just about every single state.

So ya if you want to maximize chance of death you allow someone to go completely untreated for an hour or better.

We are not talking about ethics with hunting deer.
They absolutely can be an instant stopper. More so when its up close and personal, through the funnel and a three round burst. Done...
And we certainly don't worry with Stop the Bleed with shooters in this thread.
He wasn't a Soldier or Marine shot in the girdle.

 

[MCgrease08]

We know, for a fact, that 5.56 or most AR calibers for that matter are not immediately fatal if hit anywhere other than directly though lungs/heart/head. it’s one of the reasons that stop the bleed courses have become so prevalent. Let’s face it despite the fact that everyone likes AR’s they are not an immediate stopper.

I tried to explain this to my anti-gun Mother when she told me she heard the "experts" said these kids were "decapitated" by the AR 15 bullets.

 

[justacog]

Uvalde Police Chief Put On Administrative Leave "Effective Immediately"​

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ut-administrative-leave-effective-immediately

 

[BigRed]

Uvalde Police Chief Put On Administrative Leave "Effective Immediately"​

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ut-administrative-leave-effective-immediately

Sounds like something that is about a year too late

 

[actaeon277]

Apparently you've never seen a human head after its been hit with a 5.56 55 grain fmj or a M855 62 grainer?
Nor a ventilated coyote after its had a head or body shot with a 60 grain varmint bullet?

Im quite certain a Sierra 69 or 77 grain MK in the head or fuel pump is a done deal.

He said "lungs/heart/head.

Head was in there.
So why are you yelling?

 

[Creedmoor]

He said "lungs/heart/head.

Head was in there.
So why are you yelling?

Whos yelling?

 

[thompal]

Gives me something closer to rage.

Probably shouldn't say that with all the talk of new and improved red flags laws coming down the pike.

I suspect that speaking unkindly of the police is enough to get on the new red flag list.l

 

[bwframe]

I suspect that speaking unkindly of the police is enough to get on the new red flag list.l

Looks like they kicked in your door, before you could finish your post.

 

[thompal]

But police protocol should be more idiot proof than it was in Uvalde.

Nothing can be idiot proof. Idiots are too ingenious and persistent. And usually have the full weight of government behind them.

 

[churchmouse]

Well, not from his mouth but just a little more info...

Officer husband of slain Uvalde teacher was detained, had gun taken away after trying to save wife



Took his gun away?

If my wife lay bleeding to death on the other side of a door just down a hallway from me, my gun would be hard to take away without going off. Several times.

Not sure that would have played out that way. And no, this would not be over. Not by a long shot.

 

[jamil]

I tried to explain this to my anti-gun Mother when she told me she heard the "experts" said these kids were "decapitated" by the AR 15 bullets.

If a 9mm can blow your lungs out, imagine what a 5.56 can do shot out of one of those AR-15 cannons. Even a little toe shot is lethal.

 

[chipbennett]

Journalists removed from city council meeting for “intimidation”.

Refuse to leave. If you get arrested, sue everybody for federal deprivation of rights under color of law.

 

[Doug]

If a 9mm can blow your lungs out, imagine what a 5.56 can do shot out of one of those AR-15 cannons. Even a little toe shot is lethal.

Especially with armor-piercing, heat-seeking, incendiary, hollow-point, explosive ammunition kept in 500 round clips.

 

[Shadow01]

Especially with armor-piercing, heat-seeking, incendiary, hollow-point, explosive ammunition kept in 500 round clips.

But are they fully semiautomatic?

 

[Doug]

But are they fully semiautomatic?

Of course, aren't they all? Even the single-shot, bolt action, 500 mile, tripod sniper rifles.

 

[BigRed]

Journalists removed from city council meeting for “intimidation”.

Intimidated?

It's not like there is some thug holding them at gunpoint and shooting them at will for over an hour.

When did being a putz and a ***** become a substitute for leadership?

These candy ***es can go to Hell.






ETA:

After seeing and hearing that "leo", I am beginning to understand why the local cops were crouched in the hall ducking their damned thumbs for over an hour.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

We are pushing every warrior we can out of LE.

We are trying to replace them with sensitive psychiatrists who are focused on liability reduction.

It is not working.

 

[Libertarian01]

I'd love to just share an opinion on this event but I can't. I don't have a clue as to what happened.

The story keeps changing, over and over and over again...

It's like we have something near to a timeline, then, "poof" it changes.

The door was unlocked.

No it wasn't.

Well, it was unlocked then it was "locked" but it didn't lock. We don't know why.

He was confronted.

No, he wasn't.

This was insane. The last I heard a group of border patrol agents and a lone sheriffs deputy geared up outside the room and were maddeningly frustrated at no command. So they decided to go in now. One of them whispered into a mic, "We're going in" and the story, for today, is that there was a response "Do NOT breach." They went in anyway, took fire and killed the guy. Finally...

At least that's the story - for now.

I've also heard that the teacher in the first classroom was trying to get a key to lock the door from the INSIDE!

The alarm is going off.

Kids are screaming.

The TV is showing a video in the back.

And this poor woman, Mrs. Garcia, is expected to calmly and with deliberation dig out the right key, slide it into the lock, and turn it, successfully?

When this thing finally gets clarified I am hoping a whole lot of heads roll.

I get the idea of the "fog of war" or "no comment, ongoing investigation" but this? Sad.

Regards,

Doug

 

[DragonGunner]

We know, for a fact, that 5.56 or most AR calibers for that matter are not immediately fatal if hit anywhere other than directly though lungs/heart/head. it’s one of the reasons that stop the bleed courses have become so prevalent. Let’s face it despite the fact that everyone likes AR’s they are not an immediate stopper.

There is a reason it’s not legal or ethical to deer hunt with in just about every single state.

So ya if you want to maximize chance of death you allow someone to go completely untreated for an hour or better.

Totally lost me on this....36 states allow .223 for deer hunting. 14 don't allow it and that was several years ago. May not be stopped by any caliber if shot in the leg either so don't have a clue what your trying g to say. I just don't believe you. There is no magic bullet caliber...you could get hit by a 30-06 and survive and next time get shot by a .22 and die.

 

[maxipum]

Anymore news about this giant poop samich?