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    House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler announced that an investigation into the seizure of phone data from Democratic lawmakers by the Justice Department during the Trump administration.

    One of the options before the panel is to compel testimony under oath from Trump-era Attorneys General Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr, both of whom have denied knowing about the data seizure.

    So, it appears that the thing Trump accused the Obama Administration for, his administration was doing as well. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. This should be especially concerning since neither Sessions nor Barr knew anything about it (so they say).
     

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    Wouldn't the difference be that the Trump DOJ was investigating leaks of classified information and the Obama admin was spying on Trump based on a fabricated narrative of "Russia Collusion" that we know never happened and was created by the Dems?

    One would seem to be normal operation of the DOJ and the other abuse of power. But maybe there isn't a difference?
     

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    Wouldn't the difference be that the Trump DOJ was investigating leaks of classified information and the Obama admin was spying on Trump based on a fabricated narrative of "Russia Collusion" that we know never happened and was created by the Dems?

    One would seem to be normal operation of the DOJ and the other abuse of power. But maybe there isn't a difference?
    We don't know that. Administration officials ignored or were prevented from testifying on the subject. Nevertheless, like the FISA warrants, you can't just willy-nilly spy on people because of what you think they're doing. You need to have something to back you up. So if one has the opinion that the FISA warrants were wrongfully obtained, then I'd hope they'd stay consistent and in their criticisms if the Trump administration did the same thing.
     

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    We don't know that. Administration officials ignored or were prevented from testifying on the subject. Nevertheless, like the FISA warrants, you can't just willy-nilly spy on people because of what you think they're doing. You need to have something to back you up. So if one has the opinion that the FISA warrants were wrongfully obtained, then I'd hope they'd stay consistent and in their criticisms if the Trump administration did the same thing.

    Oh well, in that case, I hope this is pursued and prosecuted with the same vigor and outcome as last time. Justice will be served, just like last time!
     
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    So if one has the opinion that the FISA warrants were wrongfully obtained, then I'd hope they'd stay consistent and in their criticisms if the Trump administration did the same thing.
    I do so believe and I agree that if the Trump administration did the same thing they should suffer the same consequences as the democrats which means there will be none. If we're keeping score I think the Trump administration is still lagging way behind in the race to be the most corrupt.
     

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    I do so believe and I agree that if the Trump administration did the same thing they should suffer the same consequences as the democrats which means there will be none. If we're keeping score I think the Trump administration is still lagging way behind in the race to be the most corrupt.
    But orange man bad. How long has he been out of office and he still lives rent free in their heads? I used to find it funny. Now it’s just sad.
     

    Cameramonkey

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    I think I understand.

    If you investigate the SUSPECTED leakers and find evidence of leaks, its justified and kosher. If your suspicions were wrong, its not justified, treasonous, and should be punished. The reason for the investigation is irrelevant.

    Am I doing it right?
     

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    Instead of using the tired old democrat/republican trope, let's rephrase this story using Globalist/Populist language. Perhaps it would be more useful.
     

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    So, it appears that the thing Trump accused the Obama Administration for, his administration was doing as well. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. This should be especially concerning since neither Sessions nor Barr knew anything about it (so they say).
    Sessions and Barr didn’t know anything about the Russian collusion either and we know how that turned out. But we’ll see if there’s anything to it.
     
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