Trump 2024 — The second term

[HKFaninCarmel]

This part is not the controversial part IMO. If he would've just left it as this, it wouldn't have left much meat on the bone to exploit.

" If Russia attacks, we will not protect you because you didn't pay your bills, you're delinquent." In other words, pay your national defense share. Now apparently this is in reference to fulfilling their dedicated national defense budget share of NATO charter agreements.

The following is the controversial part that left him open to MSM exploitation.

"Not only will I not protect you, but in fact I will also encourage them (Russia) to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay your bills."

The idea of holding nato to do their job is perfect. The messaging is retarded.

 

[jamil]

Unforced error.

 

[KG1]

Unforced error.

 

[BugI02]

Enough With the BS Objections to Donald Trump

townhall.com

If your fussiness about Donald Trump‘s personal behavior is such that you’re willing to sacrifice the lives of other Americans so that you can say your hands are figuratively clean because you didn’t vote for that Bad Orange Man, then I submit to you that the moral problem is yours and not his.

 

[jamil]

Enough With the BS Objections to Donald Trump

townhall.com

I think this is a misunderstanding of the not-Trump sentiment. It seems like this as an explanation of behavior is based on a worldview they probably don't quite share. I don't think HK thinks he's keeping his hands clean in the Pontius Pilot sense.

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But we have something we have to focus on now, and that’s winning in November. The voters picked Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is the guy the voters picked. If you are a DeSantis supporter, like I am, at least you can take some solace in the fact that the GOP didn’t pick Nikki Haley. I didn’t like 2004 very much the first time, and I don’t want to relive it again today.

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Now, I agree with the above, regardless if Trump is icky. The way I see it, I'd rather have a better candidate, one who makes fewer unforced errors. We can both argue our opinions about that. But at this point, Trump is who I am voting for in November. But, I don't think either way is an absolute moral issue. Within your sense of morality you can view it as that.

 

[HKFaninCarmel]

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I think this is a misunderstanding of the not-Trump sentiment. It seems like this as an explanation of behavior is based on a worldview they probably don't quite share. I don't think HK thinks he's keeping his hands clean in the Pontius Pilot sense.

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But we have something we have to focus on now, and that’s winning in November. The voters picked Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is the guy the voters picked. If you are a DeSantis supporter, like I am, at least you can take some solace in the fact that the GOP didn’t pick Nikki Haley. I didn’t like 2004 very much the first time, and I don’t want to relive it again today.

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Now, I agree with the above, regardless if Trump is icky. The way I see it, I'd rather have a better candidate, one who makes fewer unforced errors. We can both argue our opinions about that. But at this point, Trump is who I am voting for in November. But, I don't think either way is an absolute moral issue. Within your sense of morality you can view it as that.

I know lots of folks who can't stand Biden but also can't stand Trump and who would easily vote for a normal, non-Biden alternative. This explains Haley's outperformance of Trump in certain areas. When people only get clips of Trump's bizarre Truth posts, self-inflicted wounds from dumbass comments, and see clips of him in the court room- why would they feel like they have a moral imperative to vote for him?

If we had a normal person who was talking about the border being wide ass open, the world at war, and people struggling to afford anything- maybe, just maybe, more people would relate and vote in line. Think about how absolutely awful Biden is and Maga Man can only come even with him in a head to head race.

I will vote for the Republican, but if he loses, it ain't because of some deep-state tin foil ********. The man never acknowledges defeat or being wrong and his followers fall in line with it. I hope I'm wrong, but if not, don't say the writing wasn't on the wall.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Haley tells Trump to 'say it to my face' after he questions her military husband's whereabouts

The race for the Republican nomination got personal when Donald Trump questioned the absence of Nikki Haley’s husband on the campaign trail.

apnews.com

I'm no Haley supporter, but Trump is a sleazy slime-ball. Pure and simple.

 

[KG1]

Haley tells Trump to 'say it to my face' after he questions her military husband's whereabouts

The race for the Republican nomination got personal when Donald Trump questioned the absence of Nikki Haley’s husband on the campaign trail.

apnews.com

I'm no Haley supporter, but Trump is a sleazy slime-ball. Pure and simple.

Yeah as much as I dislike Haley it was pretty much a dick move on Trump's part.

 

[JTScribe]

Yeah as much as I dislike Haley it was pretty dick move on Trump's part.

You know what else is a dick move? Sleeping around on your husband while he’s deployed.

 

[foszoe]

Glad we don't care about "dick moves" as long as the end result is what we think is good for the country.

 

[KG1]

You know what else is a dick move? Sleeping around on your husband while he’s deployed.

You know what else is a dick move too? Banging a porn star when you have a pregnant wife. Maybe Haley should bring that up again.

 

[JTScribe]

You know what else is a dick move too? Banging a porn star when you have a pregnant wife. Maybe Haley should bring that up.

Hey, absolutely fair point. Has he tried to use his wife to boost his campaign like Haley has?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

You know what else is a dick move too? Banging a porn star when you have a pregnant wife. Maybe Haley should bring that up.

And Trump's detractors weren't shy about bringing that up, so turnabout is fair play?

 

[KG1]

And Trump's detractors weren't shy about bringing that up, so turnabout is fair play?

Sure. Has Haley done that? Maybe she should now. Turnabout is fair play, right?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Sure. Has Haley done that? Maybe she should now. Turnabout is fair play, right?

True enough. Wish none of it was brought up on either side, but it is what it is.

 

[jamil]

You know what else is a dick move? Sleeping around on your husband while he’s deployed.

Which means there isn't a person running who isn't horrible.

Basically they're all bad. Pick one. I'm just done with neocons. They're practically democrats. So of the horrible people available, gonna have to be Trump.

 

[jamil]

Yeah as much as I dislike Haley it was pretty much dick move on Trump's part.

Another unforced error.

 

[jamil]

Glad we don't care about "dick moves" as long as the end result is what we think is good for the country.

I don't know who you can vote for that hasn't committed a "dick move".

 

[jamil]

You know what else is a dick move too? Banging a porn star when you have a pregnant wife. Maybe Haley should bring that up again.

People can play this game all day.

 

[KG1]

Dang you guys are making me out to be like a great Haley defender here. I dislike her for a whole host of reasons and would never have the intention of voting for her. That is clear.