This is nuts I wouldn't work for a company doing this.

[hornadylnl]

It's voluntary, is it not?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Is there current legislation that makes these request illegal?

I could see a great case for invasion of privacy. It would also be difficult to defend it as voluntary. Throw in an activist judge or two, and we could probably get rulings stranger than fiction.

 

[IndyDave1776]

It's voluntary, is it not?

Should I interpret this to indicate that you come down on the side of preference and opportunity and not principle?

 

[LEaSH]

Strange that.

There are no privacy protections in the constitution.

 

[level.eleven]

I wouldn't presume to tell you how to run your business, but if you required (or even requested) my passwords, I would immediately withdraw my application and terminate the interview. I would refuse to consider working for a company who cares so little about business ethics that they think that sort of behavior is acceptable.

Sounds great, until it becomes the norm. I wonder what the first guy said when an interviewer asked to watch him pee.

 

[hornadylnl]

I could see a great case for invasion of privacy. It would also be difficult to defend it as voluntary. Throw in an activist judge or two, and we could probably get rulings stranger than fiction.

Not voluntary? So someone kidnapped you against your will and frog marched you into the interview room and water boarded you until you gave up your password?

Do I feel it's an invasion of privacy? Yes. But if we're ever going to have real liberty in this country again, we're going to have to put on our big boy pants and learn to fend for ourselves instead of abrogating that role to the government.

 

[Scutter01]

Sounds great, until it becomes the norm. I wonder what the first guy said when an interviewer asked to watch him pee.

And that is why I expect there to be legislation.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Not voluntary? So someone kidnapped you against your will and frog marched you into the interview room and water boarded you until you gave up your password?

Do I feel it's an invasion of privacy? Yes. But if we're ever going to have real liberty in this country again, we're going to have to put on our big boy pants and learn to fend for ourselves instead of abrogating that role to the government.

Not kidnapping, but extortion wouldn't be too much of a stretch.

I already told you how I would deal with it. Please note the conspicuous absence of anything pertaining to government other than potential conflicts with existing laws.

 

[hornadylnl]

And that is why I expect there to be legislation.

If only everyone would vote republican, we'd all be free.

 

[firehawk1]

Sounds great, until it becomes the norm. I wonder what the first guy said when an interviewer asked to watch him pee.

Pffttt... we threw out probable cause YEARS ago. It has ended up that if you are hurt on the job the FIRST thing YOU should demand is a drug test to protect YOURSELF!

 

[hornadylnl]

Not kidnapping, but extortion wouldn't be too much of a stretch.

I already told you how I would deal with it. Please note the conspicuous absence of anything pertaining to government other than potential conflicts with existing laws.

Extortion?

What, are we entitled to a job and the employer is using our constitutionally protected job to squeeze out information?

 

[IndyDave1776]

If only everyone would vote republican, we'd all be free.

Free(r) from legislation, but apparently not from you if you are given the opportunity.

 

[hornadylnl]

Pffttt... we threw out probable cause YEARS ago. It has ended up that if you are hurt on the job the FIRST thing YOU should demand is a drug test to protect YOURSELF!

I thought the Bill of Rights said what the federal government can't do to citizens. Now it applies to employers as well?

 

[hornadylnl]

Free(r) from legislation, but apparently not from you if you are given the opportunity.

I won't become an employer. Between dealing with out of control government and employees would never be worth the amount of my I'd make.

Night all, I'm going to bed.

 

[firehawk1]

Free(r) from legislation, but apparently not from you if you are given the opportunity.

I think you're missing hornadylnl's point. We all need to stop allowing ourselves to become "victims", and as he said we ALL need put on our big boy pants and ALL start refusing to submit to things like this. NOT turn to the government to do it for us. Only problem with this is many would/will go unemployed until the message is made clear NO ONE will tolerate this kind of intrusion of privacy.

hornadylnl, correct me if I have it wrong.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I won't become an employer. Between dealing with out of control government and employees would never be worth the amount of my I'd make.

Night all, I'm going to bed.

That sounds like a great thing for the nation's potential employees! Enjoy your rest!

 

[88GT]

And I fully support your right to do so. It's the free market. What I don't support is the government intruding on this process. If requiring social media content is over the top, it will go the way of the buggy whip.

Don't you worry. There will be enough complainers that a new law will be passed to prevent this.

Aren't all Facebook pages public? Again, if you don't want a potential employer to have that info, I fully support you. You formed an opinion on Martin by his page. A potential employer would like to form an opinion of you from your page.

What I don't support is adding another few hundred pages of legislation to the 80,000 new pages they're going to add this year. What is the point of all the *****ing about employers requiring this information if people aren't seeking to prevent them from doing so.

I don't do Facebook. I wouldn't work for a company that wanted my email account and password. I get that. But I don't support MORE LEGISLATION.

Who is John Galt?

You keep repeating the same refrain here, but I have to wonder if you read the article completely. The legislation being proposed in IL and MD aims at preventing PUBLIC agencies from requesting that information. You know, government agencies. And it's not just FB and twitter accounts they want access to. Many are asking for email account information.

Given the potential for abuse, and the foregone conclusion that government agencies have to be told NOT to do something in order to keep them from doing it, a law is probably the only way to protect people. The line is just too thin to expect the government to stay on the proper side of it with that kind of information on people because it's inevitable that it will be misused.

 

[hornadylnl]

I think you're missing hornadylnl's point. We all need to stop allowing ourselves to become "victims", and as he said we ALL need put on our big boy pants and ALL start refusing to submit to things like this. NOT turn to the government to do it for us. Only problem with this is many would/will go unemployed until the message is made clear NO ONE will tolerate this kind of intrusion of privacy.

hornadylnl, correct me if I have it wrong.

Yep, you are spot on. I think there ought to be a law against saying "there ought to be a law!"

Seriously, what role do we or did we play in creating this Leviathon of a local, state, and federal government? The citizens asked for the overwhelming majority of it or it wouldn't exist.

This facebook think could blow up in my face as well. If I'm in an interview and they ask for this information, I will have to tell them I don't have an account. Will they believe me or will they think I'm lying to them about not having an account? I'll deal with that situation when it comes rather than to ask for big brother's help.

Besides, this is a two way street. Businesses have to make a profit off of your labor or there is no point in keeping you employed. If they turn you away for refusing to give up your facebook info, how much profit might the company lose by losing you?

 

[Archbishop]

Aren't all Facebook pages public? Again, if you don't want a potential employer to have that info, I fully support you. You formed an opinion on Martin by his page. A potential employer would like to form an opinion of you from your page.

What I don't support is adding another few hundred pages of legislation to the 80,000 new pages they're going to add this year. What is the point of all the *****ing about employers requiring this information if people aren't seeking to prevent them from doing so.

To be clear, when I started this thread, I was in no way advocating for the government to get involved. That's the last thing we need. I was only making a opinionated comment on how invasive some interviews are getting.
And no not everything you post on facebook is public. You can pick and choose.

 

[hornadylnl]

This Facebook issue was brought up in the job search rant thread where some believed it should be illegal for employers to ask for private information. It's just s matter of time before enough of these voices come together and government passes another law to save us.