The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership - CNET

[Ingomike]

Can we get a clif notes version…

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Can we get a clif notes version…

James Woods is an excellent follow on twitter. Here’s a screen grab of the short video at the link.

 

[Ingomike]

James Woods is an excellent follow on twitter. Here’s a screen grab of the short video at the link.

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Thanks!

 

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[GodFearinGunTotin]

You make expensive energy seem cheap by making cheap energy expensive.

 

[jkaetz]

There's another variable being left out of that comparison, with few exceptions, the current battery electric vehicles look terrible in pursuit of a "futuristic" look and an ultra low drag coefficient.

 

[JCSR]

You should feel good knowing you're paying for this. Have you kids sit by the emergency exit.

More kids to ride in 'clean' school buses, mostly electric

Nearly 400 school districts across the country are receiving grants totaling about $1 billion to purchase 2,500 “clean” school buses under a new federal program.

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Electric Bus Catches on Fire at CT Transit Bus Depot in Hamden: FD

An electric bus caught on fire at a bus depot in Hamden on Saturday morning and three people were transported to the hospital to be evaluated. Firefighters were called to the CT Transit Bus Depot on State Street after getting a report of an electric bus fire in the parking lot. According to fire...

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[rhamersley]

You should feel good knowing you're paying for this. Have you kids sit by the emergency exit.

More kids to ride in 'clean' school buses, mostly electric

Nearly 400 school districts across the country are receiving grants totaling about $1 billion to purchase 2,500 “clean” school buses under a new federal program.

apnews.com

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Electric Bus Catches on Fire at CT Transit Bus Depot in Hamden: FD

An electric bus caught on fire at a bus depot in Hamden on Saturday morning and three people were transported to the hospital to be evaluated. Firefighters were called to the CT Transit Bus Depot on State Street after getting a report of an electric bus fire in the parking lot. According to fire...

www.nbcconnecticut.com

 

[KLB]

You should feel good knowing you're paying for this. Have you kids sit by the emergency exit.

More kids to ride in 'clean' school buses, mostly electric

Nearly 400 school districts across the country are receiving grants totaling about $1 billion to purchase 2,500 “clean” school buses under a new federal program.

apnews.com

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Electric Bus Catches on Fire at CT Transit Bus Depot in Hamden: FD

An electric bus caught on fire at a bus depot in Hamden on Saturday morning and three people were transported to the hospital to be evaluated. Firefighters were called to the CT Transit Bus Depot on State Street after getting a report of an electric bus fire in the parking lot. According to fire...

www.nbcconnecticut.com

Colossal waste of money.

As for the burning bus. Here are three in the last 9 days for regular school buses on fire without having been in an accident.

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[GodFearinGunTotin]

Colossal waste of money.

As for the burning bus. Here are three in the last 9 days for regular school buses on fire without having been in an accident.

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Not that I keep up with school bus accident statistics but I don’t know that I’ve heard of one just catching on fire. I’m not denying these stories, just never have heard of one. (Maybe absent a coincidental wreck). I’ve seen stories of them sliding off a road or being in involved in collisions, etc. But human failure or incompetence is usually involved, not design flaws.

 

[actaeon277]

Most electrical fires are EASIER to put out than a gas fire.
Shut off the source, and then the class C goes to a class A, because of anything ignited already.

BUT...
Batteries ARE THE SOURCE, so you're not 'shutting' the source off.

So, if we're gonna do this, than EVERYONE, especially firefighters, will need training on class C fires (specifically battery fires), and new equipment.

 

[Leadeye]

It's back to the government picking the winners and losers in the economy, probably based solely on the level of kickback to leadership.

Always follow the money

 

[HoughMade]

You should feel good knowing you're paying for this. Have you kids sit by the emergency exit.

More kids to ride in 'clean' school buses, mostly electric

Nearly 400 school districts across the country are receiving grants totaling about $1 billion to purchase 2,500 “clean” school buses under a new federal program.

apnews.com

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Electric Bus Catches on Fire at CT Transit Bus Depot in Hamden: FD

An electric bus caught on fire at a bus depot in Hamden on Saturday morning and three people were transported to the hospital to be evaluated. Firefighters were called to the CT Transit Bus Depot on State Street after getting a report of an electric bus fire in the parking lot. According to fire...

www.nbcconnecticut.com

Or this:

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Ouch.

Electric vehicle owner learns replacing a tail light costs over $4,000

The owner of a Hummer electric truck was shocked to learn replacing his tail lights is a rather expensive venture.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[indyblue]

Electric vehicle owner learns replacing a tail light costs over $4,000

The owner of a Hummer electric truck was shocked to learn replacing his tail lights is a rather expensive venture.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Ouch indeed!

I call BS on why their so expensive. You can buy some pretty sophisticated LED controllers these days for less than 30$. There's literally 100's to choose from too. No reason "special lighting effects" to be so expensive for automotive use, even if the circuits are environmentally hardened they would only need to be $100 or so.

 

[Ingomike]

Ouch indeed!

I call BS on why their so expensive. You can buy some pretty sophisticated LED controllers these days for less than 30$. There's literally 100's to choose from too. No reason "special lighting effects" to be so expensive for automotive use, even if the circuits are environmentally hardened they would only need to be $100 or so.

Who are you calling BS on? The owner? Washington Examiner? The website Drive that verified the list price?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Ouch indeed!

I call BS on why their so expensive. You can buy some pretty sophisticated LED controllers these days for less than 30$. There's literally 100's to choose from too. No reason "special lighting effects" to be so expensive for automotive use, even if the circuits are environmentally hardened they would only need to be $100 or so.

I broke a power mirror on my new truck a couple years ago. The driver side one was about 50% more than the passenger side one. Why? Because that’s the one people break the most and you’ll pay, I guess. I suspect they were telling the truth about the cost. You want a direct replacement? You’ll pay what we decide to charge. There are no aftermarket sources for them yet. There is no competition to moderate prices. Yeah, it’s BS but when you have to have the latest and greatest, that’s part of the cost.

 

[Ingomike]

I broke a power mirror on my new truck a couple years ago. The driver side one was about 50% more than the passenger side one. Why? Because that’s the one people break the most and you’ll pay, I guess. I suspect they were telling the truth about the cost. You want a direct replacement? You’ll pay what we decide to charge. There are no aftermarket sources for them yet. There is no competition to moderate prices. Yeah, it’s BS but when you have to have the latest and greatest, that’s part of the cost.

For some of this ridiculously technical stuff will there ever be aftermarket replacements? Can aftermarket even make a duplicate without violating the software agreement?

 

[indyblue]

For some of this ridiculously technical stuff will there ever be aftermarket replacements? Can aftermarket even make a duplicate without violating the software agreement?

Yeah, I need find a mechanically fuel injected diesel utility vehicle to prep for future use. Zero electronics (glow plugs don't count, they're discrete), can run on almost any type of plant oil or used frying grease with some mods.

I'd love something like an older CJ-5 or CJ-7 with a diesel to refurbish and tinker on.

 

[bobzilla]

Who are you calling BS on? The owner? Washington Examiner? The website Drive that verified the list price?

GM LED taillights have been a grand for a decade. Not surprised in the least