The Real Costs of Electric Car Ownership - CNET

[JCSR]

The Electric Car Scam Summed Up Nicely In Less Than A Minute

And so the Gretas of the world quietly sank back into their hobbles. Now we know how truly moronic she and her kind are.

vidmax.com

 

[RSindy]

I watched this video a couple weeks ago. I was impressed at the performance of an EV truck but not surprised at the lack of emphasis on the opportunity costs associated with EVs. (Note that I am not anti-EV. I just don’t think they’re ready for my lifestyle yet.) The math slightly leans towards use of an EV truck…but only if you’re going to pull that load within its charge range. For me, this is the achilles heel of EV—range and recharge time.

If you’re the kind that will drive nearly always in town or very short commutes where you will have ample down time for recharging, an EV may well suit you.

I agree with your last statement. Right now it’s for the folks that have short commutes and typically live in the city or suburbs. I’m personally not ready to switch and I fall in the category of short commutes and live in the suburbs.

 

[MCgrease08]

And just like that, a little more freedom is gone…

How would a flat usage based tax eliminate freedom?

If anything it's the most logical way to tax stuff. You don't use the road, you don't pay. Seems like the maximum amount of freedom as far as taxation is concerned.

 

[Ingomike]

How would a flat usage based tax eliminate freedom?

If anything it's the most logical way to tax stuff. You don't use the road, you don't pay. Seems like the maximum amount of freedom as far as taxation is concerned.

I value the privacy to travel without government oversight, government tracking devices are not freedom of movement. Be careful of the future steps on the slippery slope.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

How would a flat usage based tax eliminate freedom?

If anything it's the most logical way to tax stuff. You don't use the road, you don't pay. Seems like the maximum amount of freedom as far as taxation is concerned.

Nah…we don’t care about logic and maintaining freedom when it comes to tax policy anymore. We’re all about EQUITY. The equitable thing to do is charge certain people more for all of their electricity so that oppressed people can drive their new EVs.

 

[KLB]

How would a flat usage based tax eliminate freedom?

If anything it's the most logical way to tax stuff. You don't use the road, you don't pay. Seems like the maximum amount of freedom as far as taxation is concerned.

Nah, a toll based system would be your answer. You use the road, you pay for the road. That would work for highways.

Technology is a curse on freedom. It just gives big brother more and more opportunity and ability to watch and control every facet of our lives.

 

[MCgrease08]

Nah, a toll based system would be your answer. You use the road, you pay for the road. That would work for highways.

Technology is a curse on freedom. It just gives big brother more and more opportunity and ability to watch and control every facet of our lives.

That's what I meant by usage based. Essentially toll roads. I must have missed the part where Mike's 'loss of freedom' comment was about how it is tracked.

I don't know that tolls make things any more private. Very few toll roads are cash based anymore. It's easy to track where a vehicle enters and exits a toll road.

A true mileage tax really would be most fair way to collect road taxes. (Obligatory disclaimer that taxation is theft, yada, yada, yada).

There are ways to establish a reporting system that mileage could be entered or tracked anonymously. I don't have much faith in .gov to do it that way, but it certainly wouldn't necessarily require the tracking of individual routes.

 

[Ingomike]

Those of you living in an area with tolls are used to the transponders in your cars but few ever think that the transponder data can be received while not on a toll road if there are receivers. I believe computerized license plate readers are a violation of the fourth.

As for tolls they can be very effective and can also be used to reduce traffic congestion. For example if the toll was $5 to go between Emerson and Harding exits from 7:30-9:30 but just $1 9:30-3:30 how many would move their travel out of the peak window? Several cities have tried this but it does not seem to catch on.

 

[RSindy]

That may be true for full charge but acceleration declines as the charge level goes down. Not to mention due to I2R=P, losses from heat become greater (higher heat = higher resistance) so acceleration & range suffers even more.

I didn’t know that. Good to know. That was one of the reasons I found them appealing.

 

[KLB]

A true mileage tax really would be most fair way to collect road taxes. (Obligatory disclaimer that taxation is theft, yada, yada, yada).

I believe that is what he was referring to with his comment.

The state has to closely monitor your travel. I doubt they would be happy with a simple odometer reading, but maybe they would, at least in the beginning.

 

[JCSR]

 

[Route 45]

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Surely you can't do that to a gas vehicle.

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www.gadgetreview.com

 

[JCSR]

Surely you can't do that to a gas vehicle.

Best Portable DVD Player ~ Top Travel DVD Players

To select the best portable DVD player we looked at a range of features that included media file support, screen size, screen syncing, portability, battery

www.gadgetreview.com

Of course Government Motors can do that.

 

[Route 45]

The Corvette will be an EV.

Oh yeah, and a 4 door, too.

And an SUV.

Corvette to Launch as a Brand in 2025 with a Four-Door and an SUV

These new EV spinoffs will reportedly aim to distill the "essence of Corvette" in terms of design and driving dynamics.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[indyblue]

Fortunately, the OnStar in my Vette is so old (2012) it can no longer communicate since it uses 3G which has been deprecated.

 

[indyblue]

The Corvette will be an EV.

Oh yeah, and a 4 door, too.

And an SUV.

Corvette to Launch as a Brand in 2025 with a Four-Door and an SUV

These new EV spinoffs will reportedly aim to distill the "essence of Corvette" in terms of design and driving dynamics.

www.caranddriver.com

Oh my. F that.

Glad I got my real Corvette while I still can.

I honestly hope it fails and goes down in flames like a new Disney movie.

 

[JCSR]

The Corvette will be an EV.

Oh yeah, and a 4 door, too.

And an SUV.

Corvette to Launch as a Brand in 2025 with a Four-Door and an SUV

These new EV spinoffs will reportedly aim to distill the "essence of Corvette" in terms of design and driving dynamics.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

 

[Percolater]

Tesla Semi completes first 500-mile trip with a full load

Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla Semi has completed its first 500-mile trip with a full load – quite a feat for a battery-electric truck.

electrek.co

wonder how much the unladen weight will be.

 

[Percolater]

Somebody captured this image of what they believe the 81k rig looked like for testing.
11 Jersey walls @4000lbs each= 44,000
Flatbed trailer approx 10,000, So Tesla semi unladen weight seems to be close to 27,000lbs. A ton heavier than other class 8’s.