The new 'Ministry of Truth'

[Ingomike]

In the, "they never stop until the head is cut off" section, there is now this report of what has been transpiring at the Department of Homeland Security (man that homeland thing still makes my skin crawl).

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/censor-information-facebook/2022/11/01/id/1094446/

Here are a couple of "give you shivers" tidbits.

"Emails and documents obtained by the outlet detailed just how closely DHS was working with the social media companies.​

Emails obtained in a federal lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry over purported collaboration between the government and social media companies to censor or suppress speech indicate what appears to be coordination between dozens of federal administration officials and social media executives on how to address information regarding COVID-19 and a range of other content.​

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“The discovery provided so far demonstrates that this Censorship Enterprise is extremely broad,” Schmitt and Landry said in a joint statement."​

"In January 2021, CISA replaced the Countering Foreign Influence Task force with the “Misinformation, Disinformation and Malinformation” team, which was on the lookout for all types of disinformation.​

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Because CISA must adhere to Americans’ right to free speech under the First Amendment, leaked meeting minutes show that Geoff Hale, the director of the Election Security Initiative at CISA, went as far as to recommend the use of third-party information-sharing nonprofits as a “clearing house for trust information to avoid the appearance of government propaganda.”"​

So am I to understand that Federal Government employees who generally take an oath to the Constitution cannot figure out the Preamble to the Bill of Rights, and the text of the First Amendment? Are they really that stupid, or are they really just that subversive and evil? At this point, I don't see there being many other options.

...in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added...​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abriding the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


So if Congress created the DHS by law, and authorized the above reported actions (directly or indirectly, it doesn't matter). Then is not every member of Congress who voted for such law not directly liable for violating their oath of office and for denying Americans First Amendment Rights under color of law?

I may need to go check my supply of rope. May need to get some more.

But, but it is not unconstitutional to ask a private company to do what would be unconstitutional for us to do ourselves…

 

[smokingman]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Leadeye]

With all the concern about "Russian disinformation" where is the concern about "Chinese disinformation"?

 

[Ingomike]

With all the concern about "Russian disinformation" where is the concern about "Chinese disinformation"?

Dang it! That is not the boogieman they are creating narrative off of…

 

[Ingomike]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

I wonder how long free speech will live on INGO, I always presumed that the gun thing would be what took INGO down but the speech here may now be a bigger target…

 

[wtburnette]

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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I'm hoping Musk disregards all this garbage and does what he had intended.

 

[Ingomike]

But, but it is not unconstitutional to ask a private company to do what would be unconstitutional for us to do ourselves…

I was warning folks about the government using info from the credit bureaus 30 years ago and said that it would be unconstitutional for them to gather the data themselves but they can buy it from companies.

The sheeple did not care…

 

[smokingman]

I'm hoping Musk disregards all this garbage and does what he had intended.

Doubtful at least in the EU. It has laws against wrong think already.
If you misgender someone on social media in the UK you can already be(and thousands have been) arrested.

UK mom facing criminal charges for 'misgendering' trans activist on Twitter

A mother who was arrested last year on criminal charges of misgendering a transgender activist on social media has been formally charged by British authorities

www.christianpost.com

Teacher accused of 'misgendering' child was told by police that she committed a hate crime

A teacher who was accused of “misgendering” a child was told by police that she had committed a hate crime.

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[wtburnette]

Doubtful at least in the EU. It has laws against wrong think already.
If you misgender someone on social media in the UK you can already be(and thousands have been) arrested.

UK mom facing criminal charges for 'misgendering' trans activist on Twitter

A mother who was arrested last year on criminal charges of misgendering a transgender activist on social media has been formally charged by British authorities

www.christianpost.com

Teacher accused of 'misgendering' child was told by police that she committed a hate crime

A teacher who was accused of “misgendering” a child was told by police that she had committed a hate crime.

www.telegraph.co.uk

F the EU. We need to make sure this garbage doesn't take over here as well. What an absolute crock of

 

[Cldedhnds]

Well they can’t count on The Twitter to pass along EVERYTHING as fact to the masses…..pulled a tweet of BS when it didn‘t spin their way.

White House deletes tweet flagged by Twitter that credited Biden for Social Security payment increase

The White House took down a tweet Wednesday that gave President Biden credit for rising Social Security payments that are the result of 40-year high inflation.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ditcherman]

In the, "they never stop until the head is cut off" section, there is now this report of what has been transpiring at the Department of Homeland Security (man that homeland thing still makes my skin crawl).

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/censor-information-facebook/2022/11/01/id/1094446/

Here are a couple of "give you shivers" tidbits.

"Emails and documents obtained by the outlet detailed just how closely DHS was working with the social media companies.​

Emails obtained in a federal lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry over purported collaboration between the government and social media companies to censor or suppress speech indicate what appears to be coordination between dozens of federal administration officials and social media executives on how to address information regarding COVID-19 and a range of other content.​

​

“The discovery provided so far demonstrates that this Censorship Enterprise is extremely broad,” Schmitt and Landry said in a joint statement."​

"In January 2021, CISA replaced the Countering Foreign Influence Task force with the “Misinformation, Disinformation and Malinformation” team, which was on the lookout for all types of disinformation.​

​

Because CISA must adhere to Americans’ right to free speech under the First Amendment, leaked meeting minutes show that Geoff Hale, the director of the Election Security Initiative at CISA, went as far as to recommend the use of third-party information-sharing nonprofits as a “clearing house for trust information to avoid the appearance of government propaganda.”"​

So am I to understand that Federal Government employees who generally take an oath to the Constitution cannot figure out the Preamble to the Bill of Rights, and the text of the First Amendment? Are they really that stupid, or are they really just that subversive and evil? At this point, I don't see there being many other options.

...in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added...​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abriding the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


So if Congress created the DHS by law, and authorized the above reported actions (directly or indirectly, it doesn't matter). Then is not every member of Congress who voted for such law not directly liable for violating their oath of office and for denying Americans First Amendment Rights under color of law?

I may need to go check my supply of rope. May need to get some more.

I vote subversive and evil, but stupid too.

 

[chipbennett]

Well they can’t count on The Twitter to pass along EVERYTHING as fact to the masses…..pulled a tweet of BS when it didn‘t spin their way.

White House deletes tweet flagged by Twitter that credited Biden for Social Security payment increase

The White House took down a tweet Wednesday that gave President Biden credit for rising Social Security payments that are the result of 40-year high inflation.

www.foxnews.com

"Twitter" (the entity/company) had nothing directly to do with the "fact check" in this case. It was Twitter's crowd-sourced fact-checking feature called Birdwatch. Actual users created the fact-check comments, and other users voted the fact-check comments up/down.

 

[KLB]

"Twitter" (the entity/company) had nothing directly to do with the "fact check" in this case. It was Twitter's crowd-sourced fact-checking feature called Birdwatch. Actual users created the fact-check comments, and other users voted the fact-check comments up/down.

Were there instances of this happening before to Biden's obvious lies?

 

[chipbennett]

Were there instances of this happening before to Biden's obvious lies?

Not sure. I honestly try to avoid engaging with political Twitter.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Were there instances of this happening before to Biden's obvious lies?

Not that i saw. I did see one of the fact checks a week or two ago. I believe I posted it somewhere on here. That was the first one I saw.

 

[KLB]

I know it happened to Trump a lot. This is the first I have heard of it for Biden. Twitchy would have been all over it I'm sure

 

[BugI02]

Were there instances of this happening before to Biden's obvious lies?

Not that I am aware of. Perhaps birdwatch has noticed the weathervane is pointing in a new direction. The change is too swift and too radical from the way things were to be anything other than mgmt directed

 

[Shadow01]

I wonder how long free speech will live on INGO, I always presumed that the gun thing would be what took INGO down but the speech here may now be a bigger target…

There are topics and speech not allowed here now. ”free speech “ being limited is always on the table at a privately owned business.

 

[Ingomike]

There are topics and speech not allowed here now. ”free speech “ being limited is always on the table at a privately owned business.

We will have to see how this plays out. Texas won a judgement that they can force free speech on private companies of a large enough size.

 

[buckwacker]

There are topics and speech not allowed here now. ”free speech “ being limited is always on the table at a privately owned business.

Sorry but if a private business can't discriminate on the basis of sex or race, they can't discriminate on political affiliation. Can't have it both ways.