Shut her down boys and girls.

[flightsimmer]

And if the troops don't get paid then the senate shoudn't get paid.

 

[snorko]

Troops get paid. And furloughed workers get back pay when it is resolved.

 

[Leadeye]

I have to believe that leadership's paycheck is small potatoes compared to their total compensation, above and under the table.

Always follow the money

 

[flightsimmer]

Troops get paid. And furloughed workers get back pay when it is resolved.

Then it must be more fake news then because they just said on TV that the troops would not get paid which I found hard to believe.

 

[223 Gunner]

Ever since the Dems pulled this stunt a few years ago, now it has become the "go to" stunt every time someone doesn't get their way.

We NEED term limits, and the swamp does need drained.

 

[Ddillard]

All hype. Only non-essential is shutdown.

 

[2A_Tom]

Doddg, it is to the point that you don't need to say fake anymore. The meteorologists even lie.

 

[Thor]

[h=3]DoD Issues Guidance for Potential Government Shutdown[/h]By Terri Moon Cronk DoD News, Defense Media Activity WASHINGTON, Jan. 19, 2018 — The Defense Department has issued guidance to its military and civilian leadership on how to proceed if the federal government should shut down at midnight tonight, according to a memorandum from Deputy Defense Secretary Patrick M. Shanahan. The deputy secretary said in his memo issued yesterday that the Trump administration does not want the government to shut down. “The administration is willing to work with the Congress to enact a short-term continuing resolution to fund critical federal government operations and allow Congress the time to complete the full-year 2018 appropriations,” Shanahan said in his memo. While he and Defense Secretary James N. Mattis hope Congress passes a continuing resolution or an annual appropriations bill for fiscal year 2018 defense activities, he said, “prudent management requires that the department be prepared for the possibility of a lapse in appropriations.” War Operations to Continue While the memo contains guidance on essential personnel to continue DoD operations during a potential shutdown, he said, the department will continue to prosecute the war in Afghanistan and operations against al-Qaida and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, and will continue to make preparations for deployments into those conflicts. “The department must, as well, continue many other operations necessary for the safety of human life or the protection of property,” the memo read. “These activities will be ‘excepted’ from the effects of a lapse in appropriations: All other activities would need to be shut down in an orderly and deliberate fashion, including -- with few exceptions -- the cessation of temporary duty travel.” Military: Normal Duty Status All active-duty service members will continue in a “normal duty status,” regardless of their affiliation with excepted and unexcepted functions, the memo said. “Military personnel will not be paid until such time as Congress makes appropriated funds available to compensate them for this period of service,” the memo said. “Civilian employees paid for lapsed appropriations and who are not necessary to carry out or support excepted activities will be furloughed, i.e., placed in a nonwork, nonpay status.” Shanahan emphasized that no shutdown actions are to be taken until further notice is provided. “To repeat, the secretary and I hope that Congress will pass a funding bill and the DoD will avoid a shutdown,” Shanahan’s memo read. “This guidance is intended to support prudent planning.” (Follow Terri Moon Cronk on Twitter: @MoonCronkDOD)

Fresh from the DoD:

 

[Brad69]

No Military do not get paid I have went though this a few times.

In 2013 the best I recall the Secretary of Defense used money out of an operational account to partially pay us a day early.
E1 to E6
O1 and 02
full pay minus housing and food allowance
E7 and above
03 and above
half pay minus housing and food allowance

back in 1995
We didn’t get paid for a few days it put a lot people in a bind.

Most have bills set on auto pay now days it causes many headaches when the checks not in the bank!

Military are not required to be paid to continue working.

 

[snorko]

I stand corrected - and loathe politicians.

 

[2A_Tom]

The question is who do we favor, Illegal aliens or our military menand women?

 

[223 Gunner]

The question is who do we favor, Illegal aliens or our military menand women?

Not even a real question to me. The Military Men and Women without a doubt. Illegals need to be sent back home.

 

[Thor]

Not even a real question to me. The Military Men and Women without a doubt. Illegals need to be sent back home.

And that is what this shutdown is all about...the D's are throwing a hissy because they just want their way all the time and they don't care who is screwed.

I have a (maybe) trip next week on a project we have been working on for years to provide better training to the Combat Air Forces, probably won't happen now. Once again critical training requirements will be delayed, readiness will suffer, people may die. The D's don't care, the D's have votes they need to buy.

 

[ces6508]

All hype. Only non-essential is shutdown.

If they are "non-essential" why are we paying them? We are 20T in debt, another 800B added this year.

 

[Hkindiana]

If they are "non-essential" why are we paying them? We are 20T in debt, another 800B added this year.

The ILLEGALS are "non-essential", so why are we paying for their schooling and medical care?

 

[ces6508]

The ILLEGALS are "non-essential", so why are we paying for their schooling and medical care?

I'm ok with stopping all "non-essential" spending.

 

[Brad69]

Payday is next Wednesday
I feel bad for the young ones they live check to check and don’t usually have emergency money tucked away yet.
Most of them won’t have the funds for rent car payment ect. and will be low on food.
So whoever is responsible for this “shutdown” could be very well the cause for a Military child going to bed hungry!

 

[churchmouse]

Payday is next Wednesday
I feel bad for the young ones they live check to check and don’t usually have emergency money tucked away yet.
Most of them won’t have the funds for rent car payment ect. and will be low on food.
So whoever is responsible for this “shutdown” could be very well the cause for a Military child going to bed hungry!

Here is a thought as crazy as it may sound.......Pass a freaking budget and stop this crap.

 

[Thor]

Here is a thought as crazy as it may sound.......Pass a freaking budget and stop this crap.

You kill me GI...

I spent about 45 min with my congress critter in the Detroit airport a bit ago. The spending bills have been sitting at the Senate awaiting attention for a LONG time. Said that Todd Young was a disappointment, became a swamp dweller in record time.

Yeah, regular order would be good but it looks like crisis management is the order of the day. How else to drive viewership to C-Span?

 

[Libertarian01]

My guess is they'll pull a Harry Reid and pass a continuing resolution to keep spending where it is at, possibly allowing for inflation. This is the chicken way out that avoids making real decisions on the budget and keeps most folks happy - except those that desire real responsibility.

Regards,

Doug