Leaked/breaking:Roe v. Wade expected to be overturned

[jamil]

Okay, abortion is murder when a man and woman go whoring around with total disregard to responsibility and consequences.
Better?

Whoring around. Is that the only thing that causes unwanted pregnancies? That’s it?

So it can’t be that the dude has a vasectomy, the woman is on the pill. They’re married. They ****. And oops?

So do couples need to stop ****ing when they don’t want more kids? Is that all ****ing is for is to have kids?

 

[JettaKnight]

Whoring around. Is that the only thing that causes unwanted pregnancies? That’s it?

So it can’t be that the dude has a vasectomy, the woman is on the pill. They’re married. They ****. And oops?

So do couples need to stop ****ing when they don’t want more kids? Is that all ****ing is for is to have kids?

Amen.

This is why I say many Christians are anti-abortion, not pro-life. You can't be pro-life when saying every woman with an unwanted pregnancy is "whoring around".

There's no compassion in that, just self righteous condemnation like a Pharisee.


Don't get me wrong - I'm totally against abortion, but I'm more about showing mercy and love to those in need (even if they don't think they need it), and not just about shaming.

 

[JettaKnight]

As a child of the moral majority, overturning Roe was the brass ring; that's what we've been fighting for - if we just do that, God will bless America with rainbows and kittens...

But now on the precipice of it, it's becoming clear that this step isn't the be all, end all. What's next? I don't know, I just don't know how we should proceed, especially as Christians.

 

[ljk]

If you brought God into the conversation, why would god allows abortion to happen and keep it going?

Overturning RvW doesn't stop abortion at all, it makes states like California and others do what the heck ever they want.

 

[jamil]

If you brought God into the conversation, why would god allows abortion to happen and keep it going?

Overturning RvW doesn't stop abortion at all, it makes states like California and others do what the heck ever they want.

They were doing whatever they wanted anyway.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Never said it was an argument.
Your side has nothing, no facts, no standing.

What facts have you provided? You said nobody has been imprisoned for selling parts. So that means it doesn’t happen, eh? Interesting logic. I think it’s you who has no facts, but every time someone has presented a valid point you reply with “good day” or more bs about since nobody has been arrested it’s proof it doesn’t happen.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

If you brought God into the conversation, why would god allows abortion to happen and keep it going?

Overturning RvW doesn't stop abortion at all, it makes states like California and others do what the heck ever they want.

Free will?

 

[ljk]

Free will?

Abortion IS free will, got it.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Abortion IS free will, got it.

Exactly. You have the free will to murder.



Glad you understand now.

 

[ljk]

Exactly. You have the free will to murder.



Glad you understand now.

I thought free will is legal.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

I thought free will is legal.

You thought wrong?

 

[JettaKnight]

I thought free will is legal.

Most legal firms won't give you a free will.

 

[Creedmoor]

This isn't an argument. It's basically smug confidence in a facile position.

What facts have you provided? You said nobody has been imprisoned for selling parts. So that means it doesn’t happen, eh? Interesting logic. I think it’s you who has no facts, but every time someone has presented a valid point you reply with “good day” or more bs about since nobody has been arrested it’s proof it doesn’t happen.

What valid facts were posted that PP has broken Federal Law?
Let me help you, None.

Again, 40 years of PP and none of you can post any proof of wrong doing.
Give it a rest.

 

[Creedmoor]

Okay, abortion is murder when a man and woman go whoring around with total disregard to responsibility and consequences.
Better?

Its going to hurt when you fall off that pedestal.

 

[ljk]

You thought wrong?

Murder is illegal.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Murder is illegal.

Yes? What does that have to do with free will?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

What valid facts were posted that PP has broken Federal Law?
Let me help you, None.

Again, 40 years of PP and none of you can post any proof of wrong doing.
Give it a rest.

I’m not doing this. Keep your head in the sand, I don’t care, but don’t act condescending towards others because you can’t comprehend what your eyes see.

 

[ljk]

Yes? What does that have to do with free will?

Abortion is free will, free will is legal, murder is illegal, Abortion =/= murder?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Abortion is free will, free will is legal, murder is illegal, Abortion =/= murder?

I think you need to read into free will, you obviously have a misunderstanding of the definition.

 

[LeftyGunner]

Whoring around. Is that the only thing that causes unwanted pregnancies? That’s it?

So it can’t be that the dude has a vasectomy, the woman is on the pill. They’re married. They ****. And oops?

So do couples need to stop ****ing when they don’t want more kids? Is that all ****ing is for is to have kids?

You bring up a point I don’t see often on right-leaning forums: In the US the majority of women seeking abortion are already mothers.

These women have better insight into the issues they face both with their personal health and the risks they face during pregnancy and delivery, and the consequences of bringing another life into their world.

The situation these women face can be heartbreaking. Taking time away from work to deal with pregnancy and childbirth takes food out of the mouths of their other children. There are only so many hours to go around, and doing the best for the children they have may require making a decision many others may find unpalatable.

I think it’s also important to note that a majority of women seeking abortion in the US identify as Christian, further muddying the moral clarity of these waters.

This issue is fraught with sinkholes, and I think one big issue is the conflation of moral issues with legal ones.

I think there is a strong argument for keeping legal standards rather more flexible than, perhaps, personal moral standards might allow. In certain circumstances that which is morally intolerable must be tolerated legally to avoid unintended consequences. I think this is a perfect example of one of those issues.

On a personal aside: you have the patience of a saint. I have been following this thread closely, and I’m impressed with your ability to stay cool and on-topic under fire.