I Unreservedly Apologize. I was wrong. I must now eat crow for all whom I disagreed with.

[BugI02]

If coronavirus is substantially more virulent/spreads better/has a higher r0 value compared to flu, however you want to say it, then practices that are reducing flu spread to near zero may not contain coronavirus.

An analogy would be wearing a mask that stops large wood chips but allows the tiny sawdust particles through. Wood chips in this example are flu.

And I am definitely not saying cloth or paper masks work for the pandemic, it should be obvious from the continuing spread across the country they do not.

The influenza virus and the WuVid virus are comparable in size (influenza 0.08 to 0.12 microns, WuVid 0.06 to 0.14 microns) and we are talking about mechanical and electrostatic governed filtration. I think we can safely say that there would be no difference in the size and behavior of the microdroplets created by human respiration relative to either virus as well as the comparable size would likely mean no difference in the mechanical filtration methods. Masks should be as effective against one as the other

The R0 for WuVid is 1.5x to 2.0x that of influenza, a significant but not major difference that would be seen most likely in the effectiveness of social distancing

Neither difference supports arguing that methods that empirically are not slowing the spread of WuVid much can be given credit for drastically decreasing the spread of influenza. Masking and social distancing logically should reduce WuVid in lockstep with influenza based on how the effects are thought to be obtained. The data does not support the conclusions

 

[jwamplerusa]

Yes, gain of function research on coronavirus was being done at Fort Detrick, MD up until gain of function research was banned and they were shut down, for good in 2017 I think. Then, NIH shifted the work and funding to Wuhan. Fauci very likely knew about this, he would have been part of the funding oversight - and given the highly controversial aspects of gain of function research, to the point where his organization was banned from doing it, the chances that he wasn’t aware about this research are near zero.

If true, that would mean a U.S. government employee knowingly moved research and technology for a potential bio-weapon to an adversary.

Where I come from, that is called treason...

 

[Ingomike]

If true, that would mean a U.S. government employee knowingly moved research and technology for a potential bio-weapon to an adversary.

Where I come from, that is called treason...

This is true. And some US universities sent money to Wuhan for the study also...

 

[1DOWN4UP]

If true, that would mean the U.S. governments highest paid employee knowingly moved research and technology for a potential bio-weapon to an adversary.

Where I come from, that is called treason...

FIFY

 

[mechmc17]

The influenza virus and the WuVid virus are comparable in size (influenza 0.08 to 0.12 microns, WuVid 0.06 to 0.14 microns) and we are talking about mechanical and electrostatic governed filtration. I think we can safely say that there would be no difference in the size and behavior of the microdroplets created by human respiration relative to either virus as well as the comparable size would likely mean no difference in the mechanical filtration methods. Masks should be as effective against one as the other

The R0 for WuVid is 1.5x to 2.0x that of influenza, a significant but not major difference that would be seen most likely in the effectiveness of social distancing

Neither difference supports arguing that methods that empirically are not slowing the spread of WuVid much can be given credit for drastically decreasing the spread of influenza. Masking and social distancing logically should reduce WuVid in lockstep with influenza based on how the effects are thought to be obtained. The data does not support the conclusions

Size of virions does not indicate contagiousness. There is no correlation.