Holiday World

[Jaybird1980]

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I carried at the NRA convention in Indianapolis. The Trump speech itself was a GFZ; something about the secret service and a sitting president... But everything else was not...

That's not really true either. Only one of the venues was a No Go. I think it was the Bridgestone Arena. The rest was fine if you were legal to do so.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Weird. Why would someone pay money to put up a sign that's an outright lie?

You know why. Misinformation is a huge component of the culture war on both sides, and greedily sucked up.

 

[xwing]

That's not really true either. Only one of the venues was a No Go. I think it was the Bridgestone Arena. The rest was fine if you were legal to do so.

The stadium where President Trump spoke had metal detectors and signs up, and I had to disarm before going to that speech. I assume that was the venue you're talking about? Maybe they decided to keep that area "sterile"? I don't recall any other speeches / events in that stadium. Everywhere else I went over 2 days was legal to carry, and I did so.

 

[bwframe]

Seems odd that there would be metal detectors that they pay no attention to? Make you wonder if it's only the good guys who know this?

I worked in the Greenwood Park Mall for a few years. It sure seemed like a place you didn't need to carry...

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[wcd]

i asked this because we were just at the ark in Kentucky and they had a police officer only doing ”selective” searches.

Ok so I can see your point then.

 

[Indianapail]

The only thing I took it as you depriving your family of was your company as I figured they'd go with or without you.

If I wanted to go to Chicago, I would. I'm not going to the hood at 2am to buy heroin. I'm smart enough to stick to well traveled areas in times those areas are populated, not pop off down alleys chasing Pokemon, gassing up at the stop-n-rob at midnight, or booking a stay at the local child molester long term stay motel. I assume all of these things apply to you as well. That you have decent situational awareness, reasonable decision making ability, and are not engaging in vice or sheer idiocy. So how dangerous is Chicago for someone who visits with that lifestyle? More dangerous than driving on the interstate? Operating a chainsaw? Camping under old growth? I don't *like* Chicago, but if I wanted to I'd go back because the miniscule risk is one I'm willing to assume, just as I assume the risk of a fatal car crash, a kickback cutting me, or a tree crushing me in my tent. All non-0% chance events that could kill me, so what makes those risks any different? Other than the media and certain marketing constantly puts fear of crime in our heads so it occupies an outsized slice of our concern?

Maybe it's simply the advantage of working violent crimes for so many years, but the amount of truly random crime that happens is pretty low. Even less if you avoid areas were drunks congregate at night, don't volunteer to be a victim by seeking out dope or whores, and don't wander off alone at night. Even less if you're a man. Even less if you pay attention and don't stick around when things start to look sketchy. People are more afraid than they need to be because the media makes a lot of money by making every crime seem relevant to every viewer. It isn't. I carry wherever I can because why wouldn't I, but I don't let the ability to carry be an overriding factor in decisions.

I get the political/economic argument, but here's the deal: It matters to nobody but you. The money you spend is inconsequential and you are not going to boycott a city into changing policies or even noticing unless you're bringing a mega-convention along with you. I resisted going to California for years because damn hippies, but seeing the Sequoias was worth it and more, let alone the rest of the experience. I will cherish that memory until I die much more than I'm concerned about some of my tax dollars going to California. So I get the argument, but it holds less sway over me than it used to.

Agree 100% ^^

Guys it's Chicago not North Korea, gun or not be smart and you'll be fine. This notion that it's some lawless war zone is simply Incorrect. It's never worth missing out for a few days of not carrying.

Serious question: how does this fear arise? From a steady stream of news headlines or some made up enemy?

 

[bwframe]

...how does this fear arise? From a steady stream of news headlines or some made up enemy?

You are confusing fear with being prepared. It's a poor argument, my friend.

Do you think our pal Eli was carrying in the Greenwood Park Mall because he was in fear of something?

Do you think tens of thousands of Indiana gun owners who get up every day and put on their pistol, along with their pants, are doing so out of fear?


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[DoggyDaddy]

Agree 100% ^^

Guys it's Chicago not North Korea, gun or not be smart and you'll be fine. This notion that it's some lawless war zone is simply Incorrect. It's never worth missing out for a few days of not carrying.

Serious question: how does this fear arise? From a steady stream of news headlines or some made up enemy?

My aversion to Chicago has nothing to do with crime. It's the fact that it has so many people and buildings. Without those things, I'm sure it would be very nice.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

You are confusing fear with being prepared. It's a poor argument, my friend.

Do you think our pal Eli was carrying in the Greenwood Park Mall because he was in fear of something?

Do you think tens of thousands of Indiana gun owners who get up every day and put on their pistol, along with their pants, are doing so out of fear?


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Not the context. Context is when do you skip things you want to do for fear you'll be caught out not carrying, not carrying when they're is no such decision to be made.

 

[bwframe]

Not the context. Context is when do you skip things you want to do for fear you'll be caught out not carrying, not carrying when they're is no such decision to be made.

No such thing as me wanting to do anything where the safety of me and mine are compromised by someone else's false sense of security.

 

[littletommy]

My aversion to Chicago has nothing to do with crime. It's the fact that it has so many people and buildings. Without those things, I'm sure it would be very nice.

Man, this will make me sound really old, but I loved Chicago back in the 70s. It was the first major city I’d ever been to, and the whole feel of it back then was incredible.

Couldn’t pay me enough to go there now.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Man, this will make me sound really old, but I loved Chicago back in the 70s. It was the first major city I’d ever been to, and the whole feel of it back then was incredible.

Couldn’t pay me enough to go there now.

I've just never liked cities. Even as a little kid I hated it when Mom and Dad would take us to downtown Indy. Always made me feel claustrophobic.

 

[littletommy]

I've just never liked cities. Even as a little kid I hated it when Mom and Dad would take us to downtown Indy. Always made me feel claustrophobic.

Oh, I don’t like cities anymore, either, but back then, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Then again, back then, going to Frischs for a sit down dinner was like dining in a five star restaurant!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Oh, I don’t like cities anymore, either, but back then, I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Then again, back then, going to Frischs for a sit down dinner was like dining in a five star restaurant!

I did like Frisch's! But we had one just a couple miles from us and didn't have to go to the city for it.

 

[bwframe]

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Theme park fights escalate into a nationwide problem

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As violence breaks out in the theme park, a family brawl at Disney World is captured on camera.

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[GodFearinGunTotin]

When the kids were still at home we used to try to go every year. I really was (and I guess still is) a great value. The last few times we went, the boys were old enough to go do their thing. As for me, I spent the day in the water park. They wore the roller coasters out. The gun stayed in the car.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Amusement parks across US see uptick in violence: Laura Ingle | Flipboard

Fox News - Fox News senior correspondent Laura Ingle reports on a concerning rise in violence at amusement parks taking place across the United States.

flipboard.com

Eight Juveniles Arrested for Six Flags Fight in Illinois | Joliet Criminal Defense Attorney | Law Office of Jack L Zaremba

A brutal beating at Six Flags Great America led to the arrest of one adult and eight juveniles. Call a Joliet juvenile defense attorney for help today.

zarembalawoffice.com

Theme park fights escalate into a nationwide problem

Theme park operators say increasingly rude and angry visitors with short fuses are getting into fights with other guests and employees at an alarming rate.

www.ocregister.com

Watch: Several fights break out at Six Flags in Maryland prompting early closure

Six Flags America officials released a statement following the recorded incidents.

www.wusa9.com

https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article263778738.html

As violence breaks out in the theme park, a family brawl at Disney World is captured on camera.

As violence breaks out in the theme park, a family brawl at Disney World is captured on camera.

www.medadmbjmc.in

I get everybody has a different risk tolerance, but wow, being worried about Holiday World because fights at Not Holiday World broke out, often among people who already knew each other, is just looking for something to be scared of. How many people that didn't choose to get involved got involved in those fights? But good example of the media driving fear. Literally hundreds of millions of people visit a theme park each year. Disney alone gets some 170 million+ visits. I'm not sure a media account of a couple of fights is really that big a deal given the numbers.

Which kills more people, going to a theme park or choking to death on food? How do you feel about an all prechewed diet? I mean, if your risk tolerance is that low it only makes sense. No way you drive on public roads. Driving to a theme park and then eating a corn dog must be like charging an enemy trenchline. 20% survival rate, tops

 

[The Bubba Effect]

I get everybody has a different risk tolerance, but wow, being worried about Holiday World because fights at Not Holiday World broke out, often among people who already knew each other, is just looking for something to be scared of. How many people that didn't choose to get involved got involved in those fights? But good example of the media driving fear. Literally hundreds of millions of people visit a theme park each year. Disney alone gets some 170 million+ visits. I'm not sure a media account of a couple of fights is really that big a deal given the numbers.

Which kills more people, going to a theme park or choking to death on food? How do you feel about an all prechewed diet? I mean, if your risk tolerance is that low it only makes sense. No way you drive on public roads. Driving to a theme park and then eating a corn dog must be like charging an enemy trenchline. 20% survival rate, tops

I appreciate your wisdom especially when i do not like to hear it.

 

[bwframe]

I get everybody has a different risk tolerance, but wow, being worried about Holiday World because fights at Not Holiday World broke out, often among people who already knew each other, is just looking for something to be scared of. How many people that didn't choose to get involved got involved in those fights? But good example of the media driving fear. Literally hundreds of millions of people visit a theme park each year. Disney alone gets some 170 million+ visits. I'm not sure a media account of a couple of fights is really that big a deal given the numbers.

Which kills more people, going to a theme park or choking to death on food? How do you feel about an all prechewed diet? I mean, if your risk tolerance is that low it only makes sense. No way you drive on public roads. Driving to a theme park and then eating a corn dog must be like charging an enemy trenchline. 20% survival rate, tops

That's me, just a scaredy-cat. Afraid of my own shadow, because I choose to be prepared. Gotcha...


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[KG1]

I get everybody has a different risk tolerance, but wow, being worried about Holiday World because fights at Not Holiday World broke out, often among people who already knew each other, is just looking for something to be scared of. How many people that didn't choose to get involved got involved in those fights? But good example of the media driving fear. Literally hundreds of millions of people visit a theme park each year. Disney alone gets some 170 million+ visits. I'm not sure a media account of a couple of fights is really that big a deal given the numbers.

Which kills more people, going to a theme park or choking to death on food? How do you feel about an all prechewed diet? I mean, if your risk tolerance is that low it only makes sense. No way you drive on public roads. Driving to a theme park and then eating a corn dog must be like charging an enemy trenchline. 20% survival rate, tops

I'm not going. I might choke to death while eating a corndog at a theme park.