FBI raids Trumps home

[KLB]

Did he actually speak? I kept checking and now it says "event concluded"?

BREAKING: Merrick Garland announces he DID sign off on Trump search warrant, shames anti-FBI rhetoric, takes no questions (watch)

twitchy.com

 

[chipbennett]

Garland signed off on it, per his statement today:

BREAKING: Merrick Garland announces he DID sign off on Trump search warrant, shames anti-FBI rhetoric, takes no questions (watch)

twitchy.com

 

[actaeon277]

"If somebody stole your car...."


Umm, if somebody stole my car, I'd want them arrested.
Regardless of political affiliation.
Or race
Or gender


But I guess that's so... 1990s.

 

[mmpsteve]

I urge you to reconsider if this forum really should be your source of what "real conservatives think."

Not sure if serious. Care to explain?

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[buckwacker]

Haven't read through the whole thread so don't know if it's been mentioned, but is anyone else wondering if this about documents Trump ordered declassified (re crossfire hurricane I believe) , but the declassification never happened because officials refused to carry out the order. FBI covering tracks.

MSN

 

[Keith_Indy]

Haven't read through the whole thread so don't know if it's been mentioned, but is anyone else wondering if this about documents Trump ordered declassified (re crossfire hurricane I believe) , but the declassification never happened because officials refused to carry out the order. FBI covering tracks.

MSN

Yes, it's been covered... from the article you posted:

"If Trump did in fact order the declassification, he still needed to make sure his staff took the necessary next steps to modify the classification markings on the documents before he could actually handle and store the records (as a private citizen) as if they were unclassified. Under security classification rules, a classification marking on a document has to be treated as valid and binding unless and until a subsequent marking replaces it. Appropriate government staffers would have needed to cross out the classification markings in the headers and footers, and stamped 'declassified' on the record noting when it was declassified, by whom and under what authority. Since that does not appear to have been done with the classified documents reportedly identified to date, the documents remain classified and had to be treated as classified for handling and storage purposes.

So, basically, they raided the residence so they could check that everything was stamped properly... as Patel says below "PETTY BUREAUCRACY AT ITS FINEST"

FBI raids Trumps home

Maybe you just do not see how dire and serious this situation is right this moment and a trillion here and there is not going to change that in light of the overall debt. Without devastating our whole way of life debt management must be slow and methodical but if we do not save the country from...

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“The White House counsel failed to generate the paperwork to change the classification markings, but that doesn’t mean the information wasn’t declassified,” Patel added. “I was there with President Trump when he said ‘We are declassifying this information.’”

“The story says the National Archives found the documents had classification markings on them. That doesn’t mean that they were not declassified. All previously classified documents have classification markings on them, it shows they used to be classified. It’s petty bureaucracy at its finest, government simpletons not following a president’s orders to have them marked ‘declassified.’ The president has unilateral authority to declassify documents — anything in government. He exercised it here in full,” Patel explained.

 

[DragonGunner]

Interesting theory.

Did Donald Trump Bait the FBI? | The Gateway Pundit | by Larry Johnson

A reasonable question.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

I said that several pages back. Well played if he did.

 

[jamil]

Actually, it wasn't a direct quote, as I took that corpse line from him (LG) as he I believed he meant it and explained down thread ( which I can't seem to get to multi quote from different pages) as someone who doesn't like Biden or Trump (or anyone the D's put up), and would have voted for maybe just any corpse.
People deriding this as "now we know where you stand" need to realize how many people out there really don't like Trump. It goes back to living too much in our own little bubble.

To answer your question I was comparing his idea that this was a rightful and righteous search (because laws!!) with the challenge he was handed multiple times as to why Hillary's server, Joe's Ukraine ties and Hunter's cocaine use and whatever else had been glossed over and covered up, but we could do an unprecedented raid on a former president supposedly based on some maybe classified materials.

So it was an overall idea, not a direct quote.

This probably goes in the category of “whatever else” but deserves explicit mentioning, but don’t forget the handgun Hunter threw in the garbage.

 

[actaeon277]

 

[IndyIN]

Not sure if serious. Care to explain?

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Sure... I think this sub-forum is not a good overall representation of what conservatives think. I believe this forum is primarily skewed to the higher end of the age demographic and a particular socioeconomic make-up. That doesn't make the opinions shared inherently wrong but hardly makes them representative of conservatives as a whole.

Do you think this forum is a good place for a liberal person to better understand conservatives as a whole?

 

[JettaKnight]

Are differing views actually welcome here?

You'll learn the answer to that...

 

[BigRed]

That's probably not far enough. The FBI should be dismembered top to bottom and replaced. And while they're at it, do the IRS next.

Mostly correct.

Neither should be replaced.

 

[MCgrease08]

 

[BigRed]

Good read. Not very long and only a few big words.
The agency has become dangerous to Americans and an existential threat to their democracy and rule of law.

FBI, R.I.P.? › American Greatness

The FBI is dissolving before our eyes into a rogue security service akin to those in Eastern Europe during the Cold War. Take the FBI’s deliberately asymmetrical application of the law.

amgreatness.com

The central state needs to be dissolved.

 

[Expat]

Sure... I think this sub-forum is not a good overall representation of what conservatives think. I believe this forum is primarily skewed to the higher end of the age demographic and a particular socioeconomic make-up. That doesn't make the opinions shared inherently wrong but hardly makes them representative of conservatives as a whole.

Do you think this forum is a good place for a liberal person to better understand conservatives as a whole?

I think we have a variety of people on this forum. There aren't many lefties. But we have a lot of libertarians and a lot of conservatives. Those groups tend to disagree on some subjects. Also the definition of conservative has changed a lot over the years. Some seem to think they are a conservative because of one or two items even though everything else they believe would be out of the conservative mainstream. I know in my own case I have said I am a conservative with some unfortunate libertarian leanings

 

[drillsgt]

Attacking my character here only reveals the weakness in your own.

If you were interested in sincere dialog instead of ad hominem you might find my views of the Clintons are not so different from yours in certain frames of view.

I didn’t come here to fight. You are free to ignore me, as others said they have, but I came here for dialog, and I came in good faith.

Are differing views actually welcome here?

It depends on what the views are, if you want to discuss 9mm vs. .45 or Glock vs. S&W you'll find some good discussions. If you're a liberal/democrat/communist/socialist, you know the people trying to enact gun laws and ban guns, you'll probably not find a sympathetic audience. At the same time nobody here will stand in your way of expressing yourself or opinions you just probably won't find many in agreement except for a few usual suspects.

 

[BigRed]

Do you think this forum is a good place for a liberal person to better understand conservatives as a whole?

I would be hard pressed to think of any forum that would be helpful for a progressive to understand anything.

 

[Creedmoor]

Do you think this forum is a good place for a liberal person to better understand conservatives as a whole?

No I do not.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

"If somebody stole your car...."


Umm, if somebody stole my car, I'd want them arrested.
Regardless of political affiliation.
Or race
Or gender


But I guess that's so... 1990s.

And if my car was stolen multiple times, I'd want all of the thieves arrested and charged.

 

[jwamplerusa]

If I were Trump, I'd have had a copy of everything made, kept in a secret location, with instructions to release on his death. But, maybe I watch to many movies.

No, sadly in this case I don't think you've watched too many movies. The corrupt subversive anti-constitution POSs at the American KGB (AKA FBI), have probably watched those dystopian movies and thought they were a recipe for how they were to operate.

Yeah at this point if I was pretty much anyone with knowledge of the malfeasance of the administrative state, I would have as much damning evidence as I could sitting on a dead man's switch.