Does anyone know the history of gun control laws?

[BADWOLF]

I'm just wondering when gun control laws started here in the U.S. and what the history was behind them....

 

[1DOWN4UP]

sometime prior,a law was in effect that no american guns could be manufactured.That is why older KY. and PA.rifles have no names....or something like that.www.davekopel.org/.../american-revolution-against-british-gun-control.html[h=3]The American Revolution against British Gun Control - Dave Kopel[/h]www.davekopel.org/.../american-revolution-against-british-gun-control.h

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I'm just wondering when gun control laws started here in the U.S. and what the history was behind them

Gun control is about racism, from the beginning it was about preventing Indians and Black slaves from possessing firearms. The Slave Codes, Jim Crow, Son of Ham to the Sullivan Law to today's proposal, it's all about race.


Suggested cursory reading/study list:

http://www.amazon.com/That-Every-Man-Armed-Constitutional/dp/0945999380

Amazon.com: Armed America: The Remarkable Story of How and Why Guns Became as American as Apple Pie (9781595552846): Clayton E. Cramer: Books

http://www.claytoncramer.com/books/concealed.pdf

The Dark Secret of Jim Crow and the Racist Roots of Gun Control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLLG8rv1u9A

http://www.amazon.com/Negroes-Gun-Black-Tradition-Arms/dp/161614839X

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Here we go again.......

 

[bulletsmith]

Try this.

 

[BADWOLF]

Gun control is about racism, from the beginning it was about preventing Indians and Black slaves from possessing firearms. The Slave Codes, Jim Crow, Son of Ham to the Sullivan Law to today's proposal, it's all about race.


Suggested cursory reading/study list:

That Every Man Be Armed: The Evolution of a Constitutional Right (Independent Studies in Political Economy): Stephen P. Halbrook: 9780945999386: Amazon.com: Books

Amazon.com: Armed America: The Remarkable Story of How and Why Guns Became as American as Apple Pie (9781595552846): Clayton E. Cramer: Books

http://www.claytoncramer.com/books/concealed.pdf

The Dark Secret of Jim Crow and the Racist Roots of Gun Control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLLG8rv1u9A

http://www.amazon.com/Negroes-Gun-Black-Tradition-Arms/dp/161614839X

Thank you Freeman

 

[devious169]

I beg to differ that gun controls roots stemmed from racism. With that being said I'm going to have to stand firm on my belief that gun control is and was solely about oppression!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

I beg to differ that gun controls roots stemmed from racism.

It was nothing but racism. The first gun laws in the US were laws prohibiting allowing Indians and Blacks from having guns.

The history of gun control is written on a racist tablet: the slave codes, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, Son of Ham, Sullivan Laws, the Mulford Act, the Gun Control Act of 1968, today's proposals, all pure racism. There is no other explanation.

Law review articles, court opinions, books, inter alia acknowledge this fact.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Anytime anyone in power wants to subjugate those beneath them they must disarm them.

 

[Thor]

Anytime anyone in power wants to subjugate those beneath them they must disarm them.

This is why most of Europe made it illegal for anyone who was not nobility to carry or own a sword...

 

[devious169]

Agree, disagree? If the heads that be apply rules unjustly or by force it would be to oppress! So to say that it was solely about racism ,I would still disagree. Racism plays a role in this but , oppression is the root of it.

 

[Leadeye]

GCA really ramped things up, leadership was afraid of being shot at. Before that it was 34 Firearms, FDR's federal answer to everything. Those were the two big ones that affected everybody, before that the laws had more specific agendas like already posted.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

FDR's federal answer to everything.

The NFA had floated about in faculty lounges for a decade before being implemented and it originally covered handguns.

NOT that I am a fan of FDR or anything, just want to ensure history is clear here.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

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[IndyDave1776]

The NFA had floated about in faculty lounges for a decade before being implemented and it originally covered handguns.

NOT that I am a fan of FDR or anything, just want to ensure history is clear here.

True enough, but at the same time, FDR did not just pop up from the cracks in the concrete in 1932 nor did he become a statist/socialist that same year. I have no doubt that he was very much the same in his younger days, including those spent in Washington, remembering that he, among other things, had been Secretary of the Navy. Unfortunately, back then, you could not do what the Kenyan did and go from being completely anonymous to being president in a single-digit number of years.

 

[IndyDave1776]

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[oldpink]

Maybe there's some confusion here about gun control laws vis-a-vis racism, but it's true that the first gun control laws were indeed implemented to prevent people from specific ethnicicties from acquiring guns.
The basis, was (of course) oppression, but still to better implement oppression against the "wrong" people.
Also, it's worth mentioning that one of the two main motivations for the founding of the NRA -- along with Union officers appalled at the lack of marksmanship skills of the average troop they had commanded during the Civil War -- was as a counter to the KKK and Jim Crow, to help freed slaves learn to protect themselves from their aggressors.

 

[T.Lex]

Without contradicting KF, because he's basically right, I will elaborate that Indiana's history of gun control is, IMHO, more related to "people not from here." That could include slaves/freemen. (Pardon the pun?)

Back in the early days of our state (when last I researched it, about 10 years ago), there was a law restricting the rights of "travellers" from carrying a concealed firearm. No real definitions, and it is unclear whether anyone was prosecuted for it, but it reflected the idea that people "from here" were all ok. It was people traveling who were not from here that were the problem.

The more you know.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

there was a law restricting the rights of "travellers" from carrying a concealed firearm. No real definitions, and it is unclear whether anyone was prosecuted for it, but it reflected the idea that people "from here" were all ok.

I am afraid you have it inverted. The 1820 ban on concealed carry exempted travelers.

Carrying hidden guns or arms was see as cowardly in the Southern view. This is why Indiana banned sword canes as they were considered "low" and dishonest.

The "carrying hidden guns is cowardly" motivation is also the reason for the Town of Speedway banning concealed carry after WWII to control immigrant violence.

Maybe there's some confusion here about gun control laws vis-a-vis racism, but it's true that the first gun control laws were indeed implemented to prevent people from specific ethnicicties from acquiring guns

I'll readily agree to stipulate that racism is a subset of oppression.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

My favorite easily digestible way to describe the history of gun control in the US