No. It’s like when someone disses you. You diss them right back. That’s a clap back. So I said something @JCSR didn’t like so he clapped back. And then I clapped back to him.I don't even know what it means. I would assume it means that if someone applauds you, you applaud them back?
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Colts 2023 A Time To Change
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That's counterintuitive. Why not "diss back"?
Agreed! Teams have an agenda, players and their agents have an agenda, heck even the media have an agenda. Good times…
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I’d tell Lamar, “You guarantee me that you’ll play every game for the next 5 years and I’ll give you a guaranteed contract.”
He’s spent enough time on the sidelines that it’s reasonable not to want to risk a lot of money on paying him to sit on the sidelines. Maybe he’s worth the kind of deal where, if he’s playing, he makes this much. But if he’s sitting on the bench l, he don’t make so much. Seems fair.
An interesting take on LJ and how the DW contract was the perfect storm. It further highlights how an agent can get it for a player.
How the Deshaun Watson contract derailed Lamar Jackson's situation - ProFootballTalk
When the Browns gave a five-year, $230 million, fully-guaranteed contract to quarterback Deshaun Watson, they surely didn’t intend to throw a wrench in the relationship between the Ravens and quarterback Lamar Jackson.But they did. (Browns fans regard that as a collateral benefit.)In hindsight...
2. Houston. Texans have to pick a quarterback. Or do they?
We’re all operating under the belief the Texans will pick a quarterback that Carolina leaves for them. I’m 90 percent on board with that.
The Texans also pick 12th. With that pick and two first-round picks next year, is it impossible to think they’d take the cleanest prospect in this draft, Alabama pass-rusher Will Anderson, at two and get their quarterback slightly lower, somewhere around the fourth pick or after? I think the Texans are going to go quarterback at two. But in the last few days, I’ve heard this about Houston GM Nick Caserio: Very conservative. If he doesn’t love a quarterback at two, he’s not going to force it. He’d rather take this year’s sure edge thing, Anderson, the way Detroit took Aidan Hutchinson with the second pick last year. Detroit got rewarded handsomely with a great rookie year from Hutchinson.
“It’s a stretch, but I could see Nick taking Anderson, then using his second [first-round pick] and trading back up to get his quarterback,” one league personnel man said.
Maybe. I bet Indianapolis, at four, and Seattle, at five, would be okay with moving to 12 if it meant adding the better of the two Houston first-rounders next year (Houston has its own one next year and Cleveland’s one). But I still believe it’s far more likely Houston stays at two and gives its fans the long-term quarterback the franchise has been seeking since its inception in 2002. Owner Cal McNair will certainly want the quarterback at number two, and Texans fans will be deflated if the loser of the Young/Stroud stakes in Carolina isn’t the pick at two
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We’re all operating under the belief the Texans will pick a quarterback that Carolina leaves for them. I’m 90 percent on board with that.
The Texans also pick 12th. With that pick and two first-round picks next year, is it impossible to think they’d take the cleanest prospect in this draft, Alabama pass-rusher Will Anderson, at two and get their quarterback slightly lower, somewhere around the fourth pick or after? I think the Texans are going to go quarterback at two. But in the last few days, I’ve heard this about Houston GM Nick Caserio: Very conservative. If he doesn’t love a quarterback at two, he’s not going to force it. He’d rather take this year’s sure edge thing, Anderson, the way Detroit took Aidan Hutchinson with the second pick last year. Detroit got rewarded handsomely with a great rookie year from Hutchinson.
“It’s a stretch, but I could see Nick taking Anderson, then using his second [first-round pick] and trading back up to get his quarterback,” one league personnel man said.
Maybe. I bet Indianapolis, at four, and Seattle, at five, would be okay with moving to 12 if it meant adding the better of the two Houston first-rounders next year (Houston has its own one next year and Cleveland’s one). But I still believe it’s far more likely Houston stays at two and gives its fans the long-term quarterback the franchise has been seeking since its inception in 2002. Owner Cal McNair will certainly want the quarterback at number two, and Texans fans will be deflated if the loser of the Young/Stroud stakes in Carolina isn’t the pick at two
FMIA: What the First Four Teams Will Do on Draft Night and Owners Challenging Goodell - ProFootballTalk
Peter King shares more of what he learned at last week's NFL owners meetings, including a Thursday night football standoff and predictions for draft night.
4. Indianapolis. Colts are a mystery team right now.
Very big week for Indy. The Colts, who pick fourth and 35th in the top 50, are working out Young, Stroud, Richardson and Levis. By Saturday, they should have their list of quarterbacks in order—and coach Shane Steichen and GM Chris Ballard should know if Richardson or Levis is worth selecting here.
The Colts are in a good but not great spot. After going the last five seasons with five different starting quarterbacks, they need to get off the QB-go-round and settle on one long-term—but if they don’t believe in Richardson or Levis, they can’t force it. There may be the option of trading down or picking Hendon Hooker (the Tennessee quarterback is coming off ACL surgery and is likely to miss most of 2023), which would mean Gardner Minshew playing to start the season in a year that’s pretty important for Ballard after four straight years without a playoff win.
That brings us to Lamar Jackson. After Jackson tweeted last week that he’d asked to be traded, there was speculation the Colts would be interested, in part because of the desperation of owner Jim Irsay. And if the guarantees weren’t stupid, I think the Colts would be interested. My bet is the Ravens would take the fourth pick in the draft, solely, for Jackson. But I can’t see the Colts getting involved with Jackson having the injury history of the last two years (34 percent of the Ravens’ offensive snaps missed in ’21 and ’22, with Jackson starting and finishing one of Baltimore’s 12 December/January games in the last two years) and wanting a fully guaranteed contract. Rampant speculation, some fueled by Jackson, is that Baltimore has offered a three-year pact fully guaranteed and it wasn’t good enough.
Very big week for Indy. The Colts, who pick fourth and 35th in the top 50, are working out Young, Stroud, Richardson and Levis. By Saturday, they should have their list of quarterbacks in order—and coach Shane Steichen and GM Chris Ballard should know if Richardson or Levis is worth selecting here.
The Colts are in a good but not great spot. After going the last five seasons with five different starting quarterbacks, they need to get off the QB-go-round and settle on one long-term—but if they don’t believe in Richardson or Levis, they can’t force it. There may be the option of trading down or picking Hendon Hooker (the Tennessee quarterback is coming off ACL surgery and is likely to miss most of 2023), which would mean Gardner Minshew playing to start the season in a year that’s pretty important for Ballard after four straight years without a playoff win.
That brings us to Lamar Jackson. After Jackson tweeted last week that he’d asked to be traded, there was speculation the Colts would be interested, in part because of the desperation of owner Jim Irsay. And if the guarantees weren’t stupid, I think the Colts would be interested. My bet is the Ravens would take the fourth pick in the draft, solely, for Jackson. But I can’t see the Colts getting involved with Jackson having the injury history of the last two years (34 percent of the Ravens’ offensive snaps missed in ’21 and ’22, with Jackson starting and finishing one of Baltimore’s 12 December/January games in the last two years) and wanting a fully guaranteed contract. Rampant speculation, some fueled by Jackson, is that Baltimore has offered a three-year pact fully guaranteed and it wasn’t good enough.
Colts working out Bryce Young, C.J. Stroud Monday - ProFootballTalk
The Colts are kicking off the next stage of their pre-draft quarterback evaluations on Monday.Albert Breer of SI.com reports that the team is working out former Alabama quarterback Bryce Young and former Ohio State quarterback C.J. Stroud to kick off the week. Both workouts will take place in...
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Panther get a quarterback. They paid the price they get their pick.
Texans might go for the best player in the draft at the pick they have. Will Anderson jr will be available at pick two. I think their owner and the fan base wants a QB that does not like special endings to his massages.
They could also hope one of the top 4 quarterbacks are available at pick 12.
The cardinals have a quarterback who could be good or great but he needs help so I would look for them to pick up the very best OT or offensive weapon to keep the current QB happy. I think they go for the best player available and go DT jalen Carter. Maybe Bihari Robinson. Maybe a wide reciever? Lots of good talent in the WR's.
With both the rushers (especially edge rushers) off the board it looks like Ohio states CJ would be the colts pick. If for some reason he is gone that should open up the edge rusher will Anderson or jalen Carter and then play the Lamar one or two deal at asking price plus. Or just stay will the porn stash that they already signed.
Most likely you see the colts trade down. So CJ wil Anderson JR jalen Carter Bryce young all gone. Don't need Bajari Robinson with JT running. Will Levis will be around and he has the build to be a Lamar style player. Could keep him at a lower price for 5 years and let's face it the colts have many needs and might play well enough to get a nice first rounder next year maybe even number one.
Texans might go for the best player in the draft at the pick they have. Will Anderson jr will be available at pick two. I think their owner and the fan base wants a QB that does not like special endings to his massages.
They could also hope one of the top 4 quarterbacks are available at pick 12.
The cardinals have a quarterback who could be good or great but he needs help so I would look for them to pick up the very best OT or offensive weapon to keep the current QB happy. I think they go for the best player available and go DT jalen Carter. Maybe Bihari Robinson. Maybe a wide reciever? Lots of good talent in the WR's.
With both the rushers (especially edge rushers) off the board it looks like Ohio states CJ would be the colts pick. If for some reason he is gone that should open up the edge rusher will Anderson or jalen Carter and then play the Lamar one or two deal at asking price plus. Or just stay will the porn stash that they already signed.
Most likely you see the colts trade down. So CJ wil Anderson JR jalen Carter Bryce young all gone. Don't need Bajari Robinson with JT running. Will Levis will be around and he has the build to be a Lamar style player. Could keep him at a lower price for 5 years and let's face it the colts have many needs and might play well enough to get a nice first rounder next year maybe even number one.
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The Colts are making the rounds this week working out the top quarterback prospects.After seeing Ohio State quarterback C.J. Stroud and Alabama quarterback Bryce Young in Southern California on Monday, the team will watch Kentucky quarterback Will Levis throwing in Lexington on Thursday, Albert...
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Last year, the Titans made a round-one trade that prompted coach Mike Vrabel to show visible agitation. This year, there could be a round-one move that makes him much happier.Drat expert Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com recently suggested on his podcast that the Titans could spring from No. 11 to No...
Admittedly, it has been a few years ago and he has probably gotten better, but one thing that really sours me on Jackson is that I watched him compete in a passing accuracy contest at the pro bowl where he finished dead last. That might not sound too bad if the other competitors were Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady, etc. However, besides a few other QB's, there were also two wide receivers in the competition that beat Lamar!
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