Author Arrested For Obeying Carry Laws

[mrjarrell]

In Minneapolis, no less. Noted fantasy author Joel Rosenberg, a man who routinely exercises his right to bear arms, did everything he was supposed to while carrying his firearm to meet with the police. He had the sheriffs permission, as he was supposed to. He was carrying in accordance with the law. The one thing he forgot to do was bow down and lick someones badge. Now he's been arrested and had an onerous bail levied against him by a judge who obviously has it in for him. Just goes to show, you can do everything right and legal and someone will still want you to respect their authoritah or else. Hopefully, Joel will be free soon (it would be too much to ask for true justice to be done and see that his captors were imprisoned as they deserve) and back to work writing more books that people want to read. He's actually a producer. Unlike those who have violated his rights.

Minneapolis Police Arrest Joel Rosenberg On Bogus Gun Charge | Popehat

 

[redneckmedic]

I wonder if the NRA will get involved and help post bail or send him a defense attorney?

 

[Scutter01]

I wonder if the NRA will get involved and help post bail or send him a defense attorney?

Of course they won't.

 

[turnandshoot4]

Of course they won't.

And you disabled your rep.

Good post none the less.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

do everything right and legal and someone will still want you to respect their authoritah or else.

Isn't there a judge's contempt order? Does that trump the cited statute under Minnesota law?

 

[clgustaveson]

I wonder if the NRA will get involved and help post bail or send him a defense attorney?

The NRA will bow and kiss the badge for him... That's about all they will do.

 

[mrjarrell]

Isn't there a judge's contempt order? Does that trump the cited statute under Minnesota law?

I would hope not. Here we have a guy who dotted the i's and crossed the t's and never even entered a court to cause offence. Not sure how the judge could even come to a contempt conclusion.

 

[esrice]

And you disabled your rep.

You can still rep him. You just can't see his total.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Isn't there a judge's contempt order? Does that trump the cited statute under Minnesota law?

I would hope not. Here we have a guy who dotted the i's and crossed the t's and never even entered a court to cause offence. Not sure how the judge could even come to a contempt conclusion.

I could be mistaken but I think Kirk may have meant an order of contempt applied to the judge, not by him to the defendant.



I would be interested in knowing more if this is the case.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[johnb62]

A big +1 for Joel Rosenberg. Not only a fantasy author but an expert in Middle East affairs. His Jihad series is excellent. I am in the middle of his newest book now. Just though I would throw that in.

 

[mrjarrell]

I could be mistaken but I think Kirk may have meant an order of contempt applied to the judge, not by him to the defendant.



I would be interested in knowing more if this is the case.

Blessings,
Bill

Apply a contempt order to the judge? Hmm..maybe. I'd prefer to see him dragged from the courthouse, whipped, tarred and feathered then ridden out of town on a rail. Judges are too lenient with their buddies.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Not sure how the judge could even come to a contempt conclusion.

No conclusion is necessary merely issue an order prohibiting firearms in the court building and (I am speculatiing) that could serve as basis for the criminal charges.

Just because you phone ahead and excuse yourself from one criminal statute, does not mean you necessarily get to ignore the judge's order.

Remember, I don't know Minnesota so this is all conjecture on my part.

 

[mrjarrell]

No conclusion is necessary merely issue an order prohibiting firearms in the court building and (I am speculatiing) that could serve as basis for the criminal charges.

Just because you phone ahead and excuse yourself from one criminal statute, does not mean you necessarily get to ignore the judge's order.

Remember, I don't know Minnesota so this is all conjecture on my part.

Would that necessarily be the case? It sounds to me as if there is an actual statute on carry in a court and that there is an exclusion, with the sheriffs permission. I don't think it is a no firearm zone due to a judges order. Not sure why he did what he did, (and he's apparently not talking yet).

 

[IndianaResident]

A big +1 for Joel Rosenberg. Not only a fantasy author but an expert in Middle East affairs. His Jihad series is excellent. I am in the middle of his newest book now. Just though I would throw that in.

Different Joel Rosenberg's, I believe.

 

[johnb62]

Different Joel Rosenberg's, I believe.

I believe you are correct. I always see the books together in the library and never realized they were different. I do not read Sci Fi or Fantasy so I never looked closely.

Still a plus one for Joel C. Rosenberg!!

 

[Roadie]

So, not only did he get permission, he was also told to just take it to the car once he got there, and did so, and everything was fine, but he was arrested LATER after he posted his videos of the incident online??

Got permission. Check
Then told he was OK as long as he took it to the car. Check
Someone got butthurt that he posted the video, then had Joel arrested. Check

oy

 

[Roadie]

BTW, someone posted his bail...

The Bond of Trust | Free Joel Rosenberg

 

[Pocketman]

Minneapolis' City Hall is a city building, separate from Hennepin County. I didn't see this in the article, but they may have arrested Rosenburg on a technicality. "persons who carry pistols according to the terms of a [carry] permit issued under section 624.714 and who so notify the sheriff or the commissioner of public safety, as appropriate…"

Since the Minneapolis City Hall is not a county facility, it may have been "appropriate" for Rosenberg to notify the commissioner of public safety."

Regardless, it's a cheap arrest.

 

[Roadie]

Minneapolis' City Hall is a city building, separate from Hennepin County. I didn't see this in the article, but they may have arrested Rosenburg on a technicality. "persons who carry pistols according to the terms of a [carry] permit issued under section 624.714 and who so notify the sheriff or the commissioner of public safety, as appropriate…"

Since the Minneapolis City Hall is not a county facility, it may have been "appropriate" for Rosenberg to notify the commissioner of public safety."

Regardless, it's a cheap arrest.

I was under the impression he did notify them, and obtained permission...

 

[Pocketman]

I was under the impression he did notify them, and obtained permission...

He notified the sheriff who is a county official. Perhaps he should have notified the city's public safety commissioner. I am only guessing.