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[BugI02]

But, they don’t have the right to impose their behavior on society. People should keep their private business private. I don’t have to accept it. I don’t have to view it as normal. It’s not normal.

Bull****

Express that opinion at work and what will happen? If the answer is what I think then you DO have to accept it

 

[BugI02]

Maybe instead of pinning that image of straw on me so it’s easier for you to knock down, you might actually look at what I’m really saying. It might be harder for you to knock down, but also it might be harder for you to disagree with.

Maybe you should say what you're 'really saying' unambiguously, in as few sentences as possible. Nuance is the enemy of clear understanding. It's just a synonym for vagueness masquerading as deep thought.

Of course that would close off a lot of opportunities for triangulation/explaining what you 'really' mean/retconning

 

[BugI02]

No. Not even close. There are observable facts and there are beliefs, and they are not the same thing.

But like I said, I’m done. I can’t compete with magic and little red Devils with pitchforks.

You would be on firm ground if you were able to just stop there - ie: some animals in certain circumstance exhibit aberrant activity that can be interpreted as sexual in nature

You have zero observable facts that indicate that they are attracted to a same sex member of their species as a potential mate or as anything other than the four-legs equivalent of 'rubbing one off'. I am aware of no examples of little Rudolf having two mommies or two daddies teaming up to raise him. I am aware of no examples of females engaging in same sex mating behavior, so half of the homosexual rationale seems to be missing in nature

So to cite anecdotal same sex behaviors that give the appearance of homosexuality existing in nature as evidence that it is not unnatural is just showcasing one of those 'beliefs' that are not the same thing as observable facts

 

[XMil]

Firstly, do you ever wonder why all (loosely all) these studies are dated within the last decade or two. They seem to coincide with the normalization and acceptance of human homosexuality. Coincidence?

That's not true. Here is a picture of actual NAZIs burning the research done by the institute of Sexology in Germany in the 1930's. Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was studying natural variation in human sex and sexuality. The research has happened happened before but it gets eradicated by tyrants. You should contemplate the implication of what that means about people you currently support.

Secondly, why are we looking at animal behavior to rationalize or justify human behavior? Do we really want to go down that road? I mean if that's the standard, pedophilia should be normal and acceptable. We aren't animals and we shouldn't look to the animal kingdom to justify our behavior.

Humans are part of the animal kingdom. Period. Your statement that it would somehow make pedophilia ok is ludicrous. Science can give answers to why pedophilia is wrong. Religious "morality" is just like some guy's opinion man......

 

[BugI02]

I can’t speak for others, but in my own view I’d say my perspective is more from a freethinking viewpoint mixed with just a wee bit of consequentialism and a heavy dose of instinct. So those are based on things one can know, and not derived from a faith in supernatural.

Labeling your own viewpoint 'free thinking' is hagiographic and begging the question

Consequentialism is a belief system, not a scientifically established fact

Instinct, to the extent it rises above genetic predisposition, is just a glorified hunch that the holder believes in

EVERYTHING you cite is a belief that cannot be independently substantiated by science

 

[BugI02]

Oh
My
God.

You guys are ruining this

Just look away from the train wreck [easier said than done, yes?]

 

[buckwacker]

That's not true. Here is a picture of actual NAZIs burning the research done by the institute of Sexology in Germany in the 1930's. Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was studying natural variation in human sex and sexuality. The research has happened happened before but it gets eradicated by tyrants. You should contemplate the implication of what that means about people you currently support.

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Humans are part of the animal kingdom. Period. Your statement that it would somehow make pedophilia ok is ludicrous. Science can give answers to why pedophilia is wrong. Religious "morality" is just like some guy's opinion man......

I see someone thinks THEY'RE omnipotent....period.

And what's it say about your position when Nazi moral standards are higher than yours?

 

[maxipum]

That's not true. Here is a picture of actual NAZIs burning the research done by the institute of Sexology in Germany in the 1930's. Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was studying natural variation in human sex and sexuality. The research has happened happened before but it gets eradicated by tyrants. You should contemplate the implication of what that means about people you currently support.

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Humans are part of the animal kingdom. Period. Your statement that it would somehow make pedophilia ok is ludicrous. Science can give answers to why pedophilia is wrong. Religious "morality" is just like some guy's opinion man......

Anyone who disagrees with this guy is a nazi. Now where have I seen this behavior before? Antifa much there big guy? Lots of black hoodies and bike locks in your closet?

 

[Ark]

That's not true. Here is a picture of actual NAZIs burning the research done by the institute of Sexology in Germany in the 1930's. Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was studying natural variation in human sex and sexuality. The research has happened happened before but it gets eradicated by tyrants. You should contemplate the implication of what that means about people you currently support.

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Humans are part of the animal kingdom. Period. Your statement that it would somehow make pedophilia ok is ludicrous. Science can give answers to why pedophilia is wrong. Religious "morality" is just like some guy's opinion man......

Soooo you're saying that the last time this degeneracy advanced so far into public life, it spurred regular people to support Nazism.

 

[jamil]

Bull****

Express that opinion at work and what will happen? If the answer is what I think then you DO have to accept it

That ******** you thought you smelled must be your own cologne. I am very aware how politically correct my thinking is, and the consequences of speaking my mind at work. I stay out of political discussions now. We’ve gone past the point where people of disparate viewpoints can have a civil discussion.

I think the problem here is you can’t distinguish an obvious “ought” proposition from an “is”. They don’t have the right to do it even if they’re doing it. That’s the ought. The is, is they have the power to do it anyway.

 

[jamil]

Maybe you should say what you're 'really saying' unambiguously, in as few sentences as possible. Nuance is the enemy of clear understanding. It's just a synonym for vagueness masquerading as deep thought.

Of course that would close off a lot of opportunities for triangulation/explaining what you 'really' mean/retconning

Some people are gifted with brevity. Some people are cursed with words. I’m the latter.

 

[jamil]

You would be on firm ground if you were able to just stop there - ie: some animals in certain circumstance exhibit aberrant activity that can be interpreted as sexual in nature

You have zero observable facts that indicate that they are attracted to a same sex member of their species as a potential mate or as anything other than the four-legs equivalent of 'rubbing one off'. I am aware of no examples of little Rudolf having two mommies or two daddies teaming up to raise him. I am aware of no examples of females engaging in same sex mating behavior, so half of the homosexual rationale seems to be missing in nature

So to cite anecdotal same sex behaviors that give the appearance of homosexuality existing in nature as evidence that it is not unnatural is just showcasing one of those 'beliefs' that are not the same thing as observable facts

Well, maybe those female gorillas that seem to court each other, and pleasure each other, and don’t seem interested in male gorillas, aren’t actually sexually attract to the same sex. Maybe they’ve been groomed by feminist gorillas.

 

[jamil]

Labeling your own viewpoint 'free thinking' is hagiographic and begging the question

Uh. "Freethought" is a belief system. I said freethinking. I did not say, free thinking. If you say your viewpoint is more Christian, should I say you're just trying to brag?

Consequentialism is a belief system, not a scientifically established fact

Of course it's a belief system. We were talking about moral basis, not scientifically established fact. You're looking so desperately to find some way to dig your nails in, you don't even pay attention to the ****ing conversation.

Instinct, to the extent it rises above genetic predisposition, is just a glorified hunch that the holder believes in

Pretty much. Not a hunch exactly. Science has suggested that instinct serves as a bypass for thinking. It's a survival tool. In studies of brain responses, almost no time elapses between observance and action when only instinct is involved. When your response to something is based on thinking, it takes a lot longer to respond. Instinct operates on everything you believe + the innate instincts you were born with.

EVERYTHING you cite is a belief that cannot be independently substantiated by science

Wow. That's really ****ing observant of you to pick up on that. Nothing I cited about morality was scientifically substantiated. Yes. That's correct. I'm glad you finally caught up with the discussion we were having about morality.

 

[jamil]

That's not true. Here is a picture of actual NAZIs burning the research done by the institute of Sexology in Germany in the 1930's. Dr Magnus Hirschfeld was studying natural variation in human sex and sexuality. The research has happened happened before but it gets eradicated by tyrants. You should contemplate the implication of what that means about people you currently support.

I pretty much agree with everything but the last sentence. Two groups having some common behavior does not link the two groups in anything else, and does not imply anything more common about them. It does not predict any future behavior, other than just what there is in common. Also, the left does this too. The "clean slate" theory has been disproven with a lot of clear evidence, but they still push it as a basis for all their gender nonsense.

Humans are part of the animal kingdom. Period. Your statement that it would somehow make pedophilia ok is ludicrous. Science can give answers to why pedophilia is wrong. Religious "morality" is just like some guy's opinion man......

Again, agreed other than the last sentence. Religious morality has a truth to it that was necessary for group survival. I think one area where you're right is when a person or group of persons use religion to gain power. Human history has many examples of this. But where religion furthers mankind, it's a kind of truth. I don't think you'd be living in a free enough country right now, where you can freely speak your mind and keep your head if it weren't for what Christianity went through in the reformation. You look at other tracks of history, and they did not lead to that on a large scale. Any belief system can be manipulated. As it is today, there's nothing wrong with Christianity per se.

 

[jamil]

Oh
My
God.

You guys are ruining this

Hold my beer.

 

[jamil]

I see someone thinks THEY'RE omnipotent....period.

And what's it say about your position when Nazi moral standards are higher than yours?

He said that Nazi's censored science that suggested some of the things present in human sexuality were also present elsewhere in the animal kingdom. So are you saying that studying it is immoral? Or publishing the results of it was immoral/ That Nazi's got that morality right? I hope you can clarify that.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

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