Who said I didn't think they were involved? Like I said, do you have this same moral code for all other products? Do you use a smartphone? A Computer? TV? Have you looked at all the stuff that uses those minerals?
Big difference. Yes, when and where I can I use American made products, but that's apples and oranges. This is something being pushed that can have very serious repercussions for our economy and our mobility. I wouldn't care as much if it weren't paired with policies being pushed to eliminate gas/oil energy and ICE vehicles.
To be fair though, this whole EVWho gives a? That had absolutely nothing to do with my decision to buy one, nor I imagine to many people's decisions.
So it is politics. There isn't anything wrong with that. Just don't automatically assign the opposite stand on those that don't see things the way you do.
Yeah well, **** them. There should be no mandates. "Manmade" climate change is a farce.
The problem is one of impact. If it were, I want to buy xxx and that doesn't impact anything then no problem. In this case, buying an EV just drives problems on a larger scale.
He's stating, that almost EVERYTHING is coming from China.
Easier to type than accelerator.“push the gas”
Then why not just say that instead of all the other stuff? I like ICE cars better than EV's too. I don't want to see ICE go away anytime soon. But just like ICE driven cars beat out horse-drawn carriages, something will eventually beat out ICE as the power plant. But I want that transformation to be organic, not mandated by governments. When the next better thing comes along, it should win the market.
Many/most early cars marketed to the masses were electric. ICE autos overtook electric autos for the same reasons then as now. I stand with freedom of choice. But outlawing/manipulating internal combustion for 100% electric isn't ok. I have elderly in-laws. They might put 2500mi on a car in a year. They never travel far, just basic shopping, eating, DR's visits. EV would be ideal for them. Yes, you're right, organic transition. Anything else will fail. I'm surprised gas/elect. hybrids aren't pushed more. It would seem an easier bite to chew for consumers.
I am as well. It seemed like they would take over for a bit.
China is not the only supplier of many of these rare earth minerals. They get the raw materials from all over the world and they're one of the few refiners of these minerals. The West is banning mining and refining this stuff. It's like with oil. We have standards for drilling, mining, refining all this stuff. But we outsource it to China who does not have these standards.
