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  • jcole123

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    Start the thread off with this.

    I think Mr President would sound pretty good in January 2025.
    I like Desantis as an option, because he’s less divisive than Trump will be. I also agree with DadSmith, that we can use the progress he’s made in Florida as an example of how he could theoretically run the entire country. I think Desantis has a chance to win over moderates, which is his biggest asset over Trump currently.
     

    Ingomike

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    I like Desantis as an option, because he’s less divisive than Trump will be. I also agree with DadSmith, that we can use the progress he’s made in Florida as an example of how he could theoretically run the entire country. I think Desantis has a chance to win over moderates, which is his biggest asset over Trump currently.
    BUT, can he inspire the the base? Not sure the base trusts him as of now. I don’t.
     

    Ingomike

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    You mean the Trump base?
    You can call it what you want but at the end of the day they are one in the same.

    MAGA is the republican base.

    CoC as a base is over, remnants remain at federal level.

    Big corporations are now dem.

    Big money donors are all dem.
     

    KLB

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    You can call it what you want but at the end of the day they are one in the same.

    MAGA is the republican base.

    CoC as a base is over, remnants remain at federal level.

    Big corporations are now dem.

    Big money donors are all dem.
    I'd like to see you try to prove any of those things are true.

    The last two are flat out false.

    The first two are extremely questionable. Where is the proof in Indiana that is true? We are run by CoC Rs. They win with big numbers.
     

    Ingomike

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    Big corporations are now dem.

    Big money donors are all dem.


    I'd like to see you try to prove any of those things are true.

    The last two are flat out false.

    Really? I cannot name a singe big corporation that is openly republican. All the tech firms are left, GM is way left, the others are just left. The Koch brothers were the big benefactor to republicans, but one died, and now we find that they were playing the middle and a huge reason immigration reform never happened. Who is the big money supporting republicans, especially the kind we like?
     

    KLB

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    Really? I cannot name a singe big corporation that is openly republican. All the tech firms are left, GM is way left, the others are just left. The Koch brothers were the big benefactor to republicans, but one died, and now we find that they were playing the middle and a huge reason immigration reform never happened. Who is the big money supporting republicans, especially the kind we like?
    You not being able to name one does not mean that ALL of them are Dems. Most corporations are neither.

    Here you go. I googled it. From the last election.
     

    Ingomike

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    You not being able to name one does not mean that ALL of them are Dems. Most corporations are neither.

    Here you go. I googled it. From the last election.
    That is a horrible list, it misses so many like Zuckerberg. I was unaware of some of those donors. I bet they are not supporting the same candidates I do. LOL
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    You not being able to name one does not mean that ALL of them are Dems. Most corporations are neither.

    Yes, most are neither because going out of your way to alienate 1/2 of the country is just not good for business.

    The ones that do tend to be Dem because "other people's money" is the default prog mindset.

    Exceptions like Koch Industries and Chick-fil-a are privately held... i.e. their own money, but also not "corporations".

    Here you go. I googled it. From the last election.
    Good info... the only "MAGA" donor I see on there is Thiel with $15M each to Masters and Vance.
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    That is a horrible list, it misses so many like Zuckerberg. I was unaware of some of those donors. I bet they are not supporting the same candidates I do. LOL
    It appears to be straight from OpenSecrets which tracks disclosures of politcal donations. Only miss I see is Bloomberg in the 2022 cycle.

     

    SheepDog4Life

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    2-to-1 Republicans want someone other than Trump.



    And it looks like Trump's "base" is eroding further... looks like somewhere between 24-31% of GOP and GOP-leaning voters.
    Almost two-thirds of GOP and GOP-leaning voters want DeSantis to run for president in 2024, while only 24 percent do not want him to.
     

    Ingomike

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    2-to-1 Republicans want someone other than Trump.


    Thanks for letting us know the MSM does not want Trump. I would have never figured that out…
     

    SheepDog4Life

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    Thanks for letting us know the MSM does not want Trump. I would have never figured that out…
    Actually, the opposite.

    MSM and Dems want Trump in the race as long as possible.

    Dems pumped money into 2022 Republican primaries to help Trump-picked MAGA candidates in certain races, who then lost the General.
     

    Ingomike

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    Actually, the opposite.

    MSM and Dems want Trump in the race as long as possible.

    Dems pumped money into 2022 Republican primaries to help Trump-picked MAGA candidates in certain races, who then lost the General.
    You mean the ones McConnell would not help win because MAGA would oust him as majority leader?
     
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