Russia vs Ukraine anyone watching this ignite?

[KG1]

MSN

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[Keith_Indy]

MSN

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Backup any information you only have online, RIGHT NOW!!!

 

[KG1]

So much for allies….

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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It looks like there is a bit more to it with the Saudi's refusing to take Biden's call. It appears that the Saudi's have put condition's on doing business.

As the Journal notes, "The Saudis have signaled that their relationship with Washington has deteriorated under the Biden administration, and they want more support for their intervention in Yemen’s civil war, help with their own civilian nuclear program as Iran’s moves ahead, and legal immunity for Prince Mohammed in the U.S., Saudi officials said. The crown prince faces multiple lawsuits in the U.S., including over the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018."

 

[rooster]

Tptb would have you believe this is a new conflict. This photo says otherwise

 

[printcraft]

 

[KG1]

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[Keith_Indy]

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Well, they must be talking about all the other Democrats that were in the primary...

Trump wouldn't have taken away American energy independence, he likely would have increased arms shipments and training in the Ukraine, and he would have told Putin directly, before Russians invaded, all options are on the table.

Now, Putin may have still thought he had a chance to invade now, but I don't think he would have if Trump were in the office.

But, you know, corporate media is going to carry water for the Democrats.

 

[smokingman]

Backup any information you only have online, RIGHT NOW!!!

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It looks like Russia will ban exports of anything to any country that joined in sanctions.

Do you think stocks are going up today,or could it have more to do with the dollar going down?
Anything priced in dollars appears to increase in value when the dollar goes down. And this morning we have already hit almost a 1% down on the value of the dollar.

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[printcraft]

Well, they must be talking about all the other Democrats that were in the primary...

Trump wouldn't have taken away American energy independence, he likely would have increased arms shipments and training in the Ukraine, and he would have told Putin directly, before Russians invaded, all options are on the table.

Now, Putin may have still thought he had a chance to invade now, but I don't think he would have if Trump were in the office.

But, you know, corporate media is going to carry water for the Democrats.

LOL no, Trump too.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/biden-answered-the-3-a-m-call/ar-AAUMXEa?ocid=msedgntp

 

[Ingomike]

So, which is more supportable, a democratically elected government with corruption in it's bureaucracy, or however you would describe Russia under Putin.

You mean a puppet regime set up by the CIA? That government?

 

[Keith_Indy]

You mean a puppet regime set up by the CIA? That government?

"a democratically elected government with corruption in it's bureaucracy"

One can describe the United States this way too... and that was my point. Maybe a little to subtle.

 

[smokingman]

You mean a puppet regime set up by the CIA? That government?

Victoria Nuland. Failing upwards though.

On March 8, 2022 Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Russia's invasion of Ukraine.(I am sure her FK the EU comments put all our allies in the EU at ease).

Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland on the American, NATO response to war in Ukraine

As President Biden announced energy sanctions on Tuesday, inside Russia the economic shockwaves continue. The central bank has now set a limit on withdrawals of dollars amid increasingly worthless rubles. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland joins Judy Woodruff to...

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[Ingomike]

They being the World Economic Forum and
Klaus Schwab

And don’t leave out the Council on Foreign Relations, (CFR) they will be jealous that they are not getting any credit for the damage being done to freedom…

 

[smokingman]

And don’t leave out the Council on Foreign Relations, (CFR) they will be jealous that they are not getting any credit for the damage being done to freedom…

See the post above yours lol.

 

[Ingomike]

I don't recall anywhere in my search where this was being covered by any legitimate news source.

You are expressing a bias here that hurts us all. There are no uninterested sources…. They are all equal in that. We must work to corroborate stories but just because they have a cable channel doesn’t mean a thing…

 

[Ingomike]

See the post above yours lol.

Still not getting it? What did I miss?

 

[Keith_Indy]

You are expressing a bias here that hurts us all. There are no uninterested sources…. They are all equal in that. We must work to corroborate stories but just because they have a cable channel doesn’t mean a thing…

Well, I was talking specifically about the global warming protest that was repackaged as anti-Ukraine propaganda, pushed here and which I then debunked.

Since one of the first search results showed where the video came from, I was on the lookout in the search results for others who were pushing it.

I guess I could have clarified "legitimate news source" as "corporate media," but I didn't see any of the more popular alt-news sites pick it up either.

So, "I did not see any corporate media outlet pick up the repackaged video at the time of my search." would have been a more accurate statement.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

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It looks like Russia will ban exports of anything to any country that joined in sanctions.

Do you think stocks are going up today,or could it have more to do with the dollar going down?
Anything priced in dollars appears to increase in value when the dollar goes down. And this morning we have already hit almost a 1% down on the value of the dollar.

DXY | U.S. Dollar Index (DXY) Overview | MarketWatch

DXY | A complete U.S. Dollar Index (DXY) index overview by MarketWatch. View stock market news, stock market data and trading information.

www.marketwatch.com

Wait, what? In response to other countries banning the import of Russian goods, Putin's response is to ban the export of Russian goods to those countries? Isn't that a little like, "You can't fire me, I quit!"??

 

[Keith_Indy]

Putin's speech to the WEF in 2021 (emphasis added)

Vladimir Putin At Davos Online Forum – Transcript

World Economic Forum Founder and Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab: Mr President, welcome to the Davos Agenda Week. Russia is an important global power, and there’s a long-standing tradition of Russia’s participation in the World Economic Forum. At this moment in history, where the world has a...

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Klaus has mentioned the conversation I had yesterday with the US President on extending the New START. This is, without a doubt, a step in the right direction. Nevertheless, the differences are leading to a downward spiral. As you are aware, the inability and unwillingness to find substantive solutions to problems like this in the 20th century led to the WWII catastrophe.

Of course, such a heated global conflict is impossible in principle, I hope. This is what I am pinning my hopes on, because this would be the end of humanity. However, as I have said, the situation could take an unexpected and uncontrollable turn – unless we do something to prevent this. There is a chance that we will face a formidable break-down in global development, which will be fraught with a war of all against all and attempts to deal with contradictions through the appointment of internal and external enemies and the destruction of not only traditional values such as the family, which we hold dear in Russia, but fundamental freedoms such as the right of choice and privacy.

 

[Keith_Indy]

Victoria Nuland. Failing upwards though.

On March 8, 2022 Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Russia's invasion of Ukraine.(I am sure her FK the EU comments put all our allies in the EU at ease).

Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland on the American, NATO response to war in Ukraine

As President Biden announced energy sanctions on Tuesday, inside Russia the economic shockwaves continue. The central bank has now set a limit on withdrawals of dollars amid increasingly worthless rubles. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs Victoria Nuland joins Judy Woodruff to...

www.pbs.org

Add this to that equation...

Nuland's husband, Robert Kagan, is a historian, foreign policy commentator at the Brookings Institution, and co-founder in 1998 of the neoconservative Project for the New American Century (PNAC).[41]

The elites aren't going to like it when their money and influence aren't worth a hill of beans.

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2020 - local institutions failed us
2021 - national institutions failed us
2022 - global institutions failed us

Great pattern being established