‘You are no longer my mother, because you are voting for Trump’

[DadSmith]

'You are no longer my mother': A divided America will struggle to heal after Trump era

When lifelong Democrat Mayra Gomez told her 21-year-old son five months ago that she was voting for Donald Trump in Tuesday's presidential election, he cut her out of his life.

www.reuters.com

TDS is real. This shows the indoctrination of the left. Do you think her son would report his mother for anything he considers extremist?

 

[Ark]

Same thing happened during the Cultural Revolution. Push the young to betray or cut off their family, leaving them alone with only the Party to be their family.

This is all on one side. Republicans roll their eyes at impressionable go-with-the-crowd kids voting Democrat, but they don't cut them out of their lives. Only one party is egging people on to retaliate against wrong-voters in their personal lives. It's to get them alone and vulnerable to being swallowed up by the collective and converted into a propaganda-spewing NPC. It works, too, because once you've treated your family like that there's no going back. It's your bloody initiation into the gang.

 

[Leadeye]

Little red books.

 

[indyjs]

Wonder if her son has moved out of the basement yet ?

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Don't pretend it's not going both ways. That's the result of treating people who disagree with you politically as the enemy and then hyperpoliticizing everything. I've been beating the drum about Balkanization for awhile, but it's apparently only visible when "they" do it.

 

[Sigblaster]

How ridiculous politics are now.

My Mom is a liberal. She is the most kind-hearted person I know, sometimes to a fault. She raised me but didn't indoctrinate me, and let me figure things out for myself. I guess I turned out very pro-freedom, which oddly puts me between conservative and progressive, Democrat and Republican, or whatever labels people try to attach to other people to categorize them as friend or foe.

I use those labels when appropriate, but it's hard to apply them when you get to know people in real life. It's much easier to do so online, where we can't REALLY know people.

When Trump won, my Mom sent me a coin from Amazon with Trump's face on it. It was really funny, and we had a good laugh about it. Regardless of our political leanings, I would never disown my Mom, and I question the sanity of anyone who would do so as long as they had a normal, loving, nurturing relationship with their mother. I think if you disown your own Mother over politics, one or both of you are taking it WAY too seriously. The pendulum swings, sometimes a bit further to one side than the other for longer than you'd like.

Someday, it may swing hard enough to tip the clock over. I hope it's way past the time where my Mom can see or be affected by it.

 

[phylodog]

Sounds like she did herself a favor by telling him.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

How ridiculous politics are now.

I think there's a pretty big chunk of society that's just going about their day. Either completely apolitical or involved but not hyper-political. I've seen a pretty compelling argument the real divide isn't between conservatives and liberals or Republicans and Democrats, it's between the hyper-politicized and the rest of us.

 

[BugI02]

Time to cull the herd

 

[Sigblaster]

Don't pretend it's not going both ways. That's the result of treating people who disagree with you politically as the enemy and then hyperpoliticizing everything. I've been beating the drum about Balkanization for awhile, but it's apparently only visible when "they" do it.

It's absoluetly going both ways, and the tragic part of it is how it's fracturing families. Friends, I can understand that. I've done that, dropped friends for their beliefs.

But family? Once you learn they aren't the same as you on any issue, you just stop discussing that issue for the sake of the family. Don't bring it up, what do you want on your hot dog, lets throw the football, lets go out hiking or jump on the kayaks and see what we can see.

Or maybe find a good backstop and shoot, 'cause we all like that.

 

[phylodog]

How ridiculous politics are now.

I really only see one side being ridiculous. One side has held pretty consistent morals and values for the past, oh I don’t know, couple thousand years? Then you have another side who thinks 3yr old children should be exposed to sex education, believe they’ve outsmarted God or Mother Nature or however you want to consider it by choosing their sex at will, take no issue with killing unborn children, believe the government can just print money indefinitely without consequence and that personal responsibility went out of fashion a few decades ago. Oh yeah, and they have no qualms with lying, cheating, stealing, oppressing or basically being everything they accuse their opposition of being (fascists being one example).

I don’t believe the majority of this country falls into the latter category. I honestly don’t believe we’re even at 15% of the population being that delusional. But there are some might powerful forces at work trying to convince us that they are.

 

[phylodog]

One side believes you should be free to believe what you want.

One side wants to control what you think and punish you if you disagree.

It really isn’t about politics any longer. It is about good and evil.

 

[Sigblaster]

I think there's a pretty big chunk of society that's just going about their day. Either completely apolitical or involved but not hyper-political. I've seen a pretty compelling argument the real divide isn't between conservatives and liberals or Republicans and Democrats, it's between the hyper-politicized and the rest of us.

I think it's worse than hyper-politicized, I think it's hyper-governmental. I watched an episode of some game warden show, and some people got in trouble for running snow machines that were registered their home state, but weren't registered in another state where they were running them.

Apparently, you could drive your car registered in another state all over that state without penalty, but if you're driving through there on a snow machine, you have to register it there also.

 

[JettaKnight]

One side believes you should be free to believe what you want.

One side wants to control what you think and punish you if you disagree.

It really isn’t about politics any longer. It is about good and evil.

Remind me which is which.

There's a whole lot of times I feel punished for disagreeing on INGO.

There are folks trying to drive out middle-right wingers from the GOP; they think they're the modern day St. Patrick driving out the snakes.

The attitudes and actions cross the lines.


Now, this is not excusing the woke left and their utter insanity for PC.

 

[printcraft]

Remind me which is which.

 

[DadSmith]

Remind me which is which.

There's a whole lot of times I feel punished for disagreeing on INGO.

There are folks trying to drive out middle-right wingers from the GOP; they think they're the modern day St. Patrick driving out the snakes.

The attitudes and actions cross the lines.


Now, this is not excusing the woke left and their utter insanity for PC.

Just remember to respect others opinions as they should your opinions. I try my best to do so, it is a good thing to practice. My oldest son who is a libertarian which helps me practice often.

Edit:
Another thing is that everything is typed out so I imagine we do not convey what we are thinking 100% plus you cannot see body language or hear emotion. So anything can be taken the wrong way. If in doubt ask.

 

[rob63]

Edit:
Another thing is that everything is typed out so I imagine we do not convey what we are thinking 100% plus you cannot see body language or hear emotion. So anything can be taken the wrong way. If in doubt ask.

This^^^^

There seems to be a very strong impulse for people to form opinions about what someone else is saying based more on their own assumptions rather than on what is actually being said by the other person. Maybe it helps us to make decisions quicker or something, I don't know the reason why, but if everyone would just slow down and actually listen.

Almost every thread on INGO, or anywhere else for that matter, is full of people that are outraged because of what they assume the other side is up to, rather than any actual supporting evidence. We saw it play out in its most absurd forms during the Trump administration and it continues.

There are genuine differences in policies between the sides, but those differences are due to divergent viewpoints rather than evil. A calm discussion of what is actually being said is the way to work out solutions that both can live with. I just don't know how we can possibly reach that place.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

Almost every thread on INGO, or anywhere else for that matter, is full of people that are outraged because of what they assume the other side is up to, rather than any actual supporting evidence. We saw it play out in its most absurd forms during the Trump administration and it continues.

So much this. The left loves to be offended and the right loves to be outraged, and their various media outlets feed them the diet they want. Playing up something minor, some ridiculous spin on an otherwise normal decision, or outright fabrications. They all evoke emotional responses, which gets clicks, which gets people talking about it, which gets links to it, which gets more clicks, which makes money.

It must be an exhausting way to live. Go back and look at the Obama predictions here. Martial law, 3rd term, UN house to house gun confiscation, etc. Then Trump was going to coup. Now Biden is literally the devil. Remember when he was going to kill the filibuster and force everything he wanted through via EO? Right.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

I watched an episode of some game warden show

Well, there's your problem.

 

[MCgrease08]

The left loves to be offended and the right loves to be outraged, and their various media outlets feed them the diet they want. Playing up something minor, some ridiculous spin on an otherwise normal decision, or outright fabrications. They all evoke emotional responses, which gets clicks, which gets people talking about it, which gets links to it, which gets more clicks, which makes money.

These days before I click an article, I read the headline and ask myself, "do I think this story was written just to make me mad?" If I get that feeling from the headline I don't click.

If I do click, I read the opening paragraph and ask the same question. Lather, rinse, repeat. If it's clearly designed to get me angry, I bail.