No more discussion of election fraud

[Ingomike]

911: 911 what is your emergency?

Caller: my purse has been stolen.

911: do you have the purse and the perp subdued?

Caller: no, he got away.

911: do you have any proof you even had a purse?

Caller: please help me!

911: with your lack of proof there is nothing we can do. Good bye...

 

[foszoe]

Do you get checks or direct deposit from CCP to post this drivel?

The entire social media en mass just deplatformed the President and an off the beaten path source is "proof" conservatives are not being silenced...

Who do you write for?

 

[ghitch75]

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Mail and ballots found dumped in Nampa Idaho Store Parking lot


https://www.ktvb.com/mobile/article...tial/277-076da88e-4319-4b36-a056-7843e21c7e47


Ballots stolen from mail boxes in Norwalk Connecticut


https://www.thehour.com/news/article/USPS-investigates-theft-of-absentee-ballots-in-15648784.php


Numerous houses in Lane County Oregon neighborhood have ballots stolen from mail boxes


https://www.registerguard.com/story...t-security-concerns-election-2020/5999884002/


Tucson Arizona resident has 4 ballots stolen from mail box and mysteriously returned


https://kvoa.com/news/2020/10/14/tucson-family-has-ballots-stolen-from-mailbox-then-returned/


Store Owner in San Fran Witnesses mail box break in, ballot dropped as thief flees


https://abc7news.com/mailbox-break-in-mail-box-theft-stolen-san-francisco-dropped-ballot/7517508/


Dead people from 1915 and 1919 caught voting in New York


https://nypost.com/2020/11/02/dead-people-caught-voting-in-nyc-elections-records-show/


Some Bucks County Pennsylvania voters receiving pre sealed ballot return envelopes. How many? Who knows


https://www.newsbreak.com/pennsylva...ers-receiving-already-sealed-ballot-envelopes


Hundreds of uncounted ballots found hidden in massachusetts Grafton town clerk's vault


https://www.milforddailynews.com/ne...llots-discovered-in-grafton-town-clerks-vault


Discarded ballots found dumped outside of drive thru ATM machine in california


https://www.newsweek.com/discarded-mail-ballot-found-california-atm-1537386


Dozens (est 40) ballots go missing in Contra Costa county


https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/pol...ts-go-missing-in-contra-costa-county/2388551/


FBI investigates ballot drop box set on fire at Boston public library, est 35 ballots destroyed


https://amp.wbur.org/news/2020/10/25/investigation-fire-ballot-box-boston


Burned/Destroyed mail found in boston Copley Square , 2nd arson instance


https://www.boston.com/news/local-n...opley-square-where-ballot-box-was-set-on-fire


York County South Carolina. 2,200 duplicate ballots sent to residents.


https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/m...ty-voters-get-two/7SUXQLSVOBEWJHCBEHBYEXRCUM/


Mail & Absentee ballots stolen in Baton Rouge found open and thrown in houston trash


https://www.wbrz.com/news/la-absent...p-found-stolen-opened-and-dumped-in-tx-trash/


Video out of Miami postal center where numerous bins filled with mail, including ballots discovered sitting for more than a week





1,600 absentee ballots discovered in Wisconsin processing center for Oshkosh and Appleton after primary


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...r-after-polls-closed-in-wisconsin/ar-BB12laJO


California Kern County sees hundreds of residents receiving damaged , ripped and destroyed ballots


https://www.turnto23.com/news/elect...claim-voter-ballots-were-ripped-tampered-with


Parolled cop killer busted attempting to obtain voter registration in Rochester NY


https://www.whec.com/rochester-new-york-news/paroled-cop-killer-facing-voter-fraud-charges/5911589/


Fayette county Pittsburg, pre filled out democrat ballots sent to registered voters + 2 tampered with


https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/vid...ating-possible-voter-fraud-in-fayette-county/


Florida man arrested for changing address in voting database for governor Ron Desantis


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/29/florida-man-desantis-voting-address/


Florida Election Official foil plot to register 50 dead people as democrats


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...r-over-fifty-dead-people-as-democratic-voters


Thieves steal mail from two usps trucks in Far south side Chicago


https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...-postal-trucks-vehicles-stolen-far-south-side


2 men charged in stealing ballots from post office boxes in light house point West Palm Beach





Almost a dozen people in NY busted for plot to conceal identity / shave heads and vote multiple times


https://nypost.com/2020/10/29/new-yorkers-plan-to-illegally-vote-by-shaving-heads-foiled/


Woman arrested in Vanderburgh county for pre checking boxes on 400+ ballots


https://www.tristatehomepage.com/ne...ty-woman-facing-felony-election-fraud-charge/


Butler county Pennsylvania loses untold number of mail in ballots


https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/202...tor-says-postal-service-lost-mail-in-ballots/


Ballots stolen from mail boxes and discarded on roadsides in Washington town


https://www.foxnews.com/us/ballots-stolen-from-mailboxes-discarded-on-roadsides-in-washington-town


Group claims 400,000 ballots sent to residents who moved out of state or died in California


https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/202...ent-to-people-who-moved-out-of-state-or-died/


Texas officer & poll watcher testifies on 2020 Houston Voting Fraud Using stacks of drivers licenses , (has photos)


https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2084...ies-on-2020-voter-fraud-in-houston-has-photos


West Palm Beach residents receive duplicate ballots and ballots for dead relatives


https://www.wpbf.com/article/duplic...voters-raise-mail-in-ballot-concerns/34198409


Pennsylvania postal employee on leave and now fired after bags of mail discovered outside of home put out for trash pickup


https://www.foxnews.com/us/pennsylv...r-bags-of-undelivered-mail-found-outside-home


25,263 ballots rejected in Colorado primary


https://www.cpr.org/2020/10/08/colorado-vote-by-mail-ballots-rejected-signatures/


Double absentee ballots sent to residents in Henrico county


https://www.nbc12.com/2020/09/22/double-absentee-ballots-accidentally-sent-some-henrico-voters/


Pa rejects 336,000 duplicate ballot requests 34,000 rejected for other reasons . Many voters request ballots up to 11 times


https://www.post-gazette.com/news/p...ations-duplicates-voters/stories/202010160153


Mecklenburg residents receiving double ballots due to labelling glitch


https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/election/article245761310.html


San Mateo residents receive multiple ballots


https://abc7news.com/mail-in-ballot...-san-mateo-county-double-two-ballots/7006753/


Multiple absentee ballot applications showing up at Flint Michigan homes


https://nbc25news.com/news/local/mu...applications-being-sent-to-mid-michigan-homes


Florida man arrested for obtaining dead wife's ballot and forging signature to "test the system"


https://www.wptv.com/news/state/florida-man-who-tried-to-get-ballot-for-dead-wife-arrested


Election officials ask voters to not disinfect their mail in ballots as handfulls have already arrived destroyed and unable to be tabulated


https://www.kcra.com/article/electi...rs-stop-disinfecting-mail-in-ballots/34336823


400 duplicate ballots sent to local voters in Richmond


https://richmond.com/news/state-and...cle_934f11bf-8825-5f2f-8391-8cdbe707cd7a.html


Duplicate ballots sent to "some" in North Carolina. How many? Who knows.


https://www.wxii12.com/article/duplicate-ballots-sent-to-some-north-carolina-voters/34056922


Placer county residents receiving duplicate ballots


https://www.kcra.com/article/thousands-of-second-ballots-mailed-placer-county-voters/34306099


Bay area voters receive multiple ballots


https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/loc...-fuel-concern-over-november-election/2378192/

nothing to see here......lets move along....

insert purple

 

[Chewie]

Who do you write for?

Probably writes for himself like most people with an opinion do. I would have thought common sense would have made the snark unnecessary. Oops there's that phrase again!
Not angry, just worn out from the monkey poo being flung around adding no value other than to stir the pot. Pointing to many, not an individual. Stepping down from the soap box now and back to watching the show.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I think this goes beyond cancel culture. I’ve been very critical of AWS for shutting down Parler. It should be a wakeup call to every company investing their entire products on AWS. Once you build it, it’s not like you can just move it. Parler would pretty much have to rebuild most of their components and services elsewhere. So this pretty much ends their capacity to make money.

Okay. So what’s Amazon’s side of it? Well, they say Parler was violating their terms of service by allowing people on their platform advocate and plan out violence. I really was not inclined to think Amazon would be able to defend this. Until I read the letter Amazon sent Parler. They gave examples of people doing those things that clearly break the terms of service. People openly talking about plans to assassinate Mike Pence for **** sake.

So while I disagree with big tech taking steps to squash free speech, this is not that. Amazon gave Parler several days to better moderate their platform but they were unable to do it. So Amazon pulled the plug. And as long as they can prove Parler violated the ToS, Parler will probably lose their lawsuit.

And what is it called when a very small group of companies control access to a good or service? The name escapes me, but I think there was a famous board game named after it. If all these major companies can limit you by their TOS, they have effectively taken away all your options.

 

[IndyDave1776]

The reason the high road is important is because there aren’t enough of you. You started getting some support from people during the rioting because at least the right wanted law and order and it was clear Democrats didn’t. So now you guys justify violence? You read these right wing sites that only present one side of it, bubbles form, and suddenly it sounds like the kind of radicalized speech I would expect from the likes of Antifa.

And I’m not trying to **** you guys off, which undoubtedly I’m doing. I’m trying to talk you down. I’m sure I’m failing miserably at that as well. Just don’t go off plotting assassinations like the people on Parler.

You're missing the point. His "high road" as he described it is turning the other cheek while we are getting massacred politically. Self-destruction is NOT a viable solution.

 

[jamil]

You're missing the point. His "high road" as he described it is turning the other cheek while we are getting massacred politically. Self-destruction is NOT a viable solution.

I don’t doubt that you might think it’s turning the other cheek. You can’t win by doing what they do. You don’t have a press willing to lie for you. What you have is a reputation most of you haven’t earned, thrust upon you by fiction. And then when you start playing the part, it fits as if you’ve always played it that way. You will lose.

 

[printcraft]

Who do you write for?

Freedom loving Americans.

 

[churchmouse]

Probably writes for himself like most people with an opinion do. I would have thought common sense would have made the snark unnecessary. Oops there's that phrase again!
Not angry, just worn out from the monkey poo being flung around adding no value other than to stir the pot. Pointing to many, not an individual. Stepping down from the soap box now and back to watching the show.

And I agree. The snark is making us weary.

Make your point and do it in a civil way. A way that would be acceptable FTF or stop posting.

I have the ability's to lock members from specific threads and I am going to start using it very soon.

You know who you are so stand down or be locked out.

This is getting out of hand again.

 

[jamil]

And what is it called when a very small group of companies control access to a good or service? The name escapes me, but I think there was a famous board game named after it. If all these major companies can limit you by their TOS, they have effectively taken away all your options.

Did Parler violate Amazon’s ToS or not? Does Amazon have the right to say that their infrastructure can’t be used to advocate assassinating the Vice President or not?
The law suit will hinge on those questions more than whether they were acting to suppress a company’s business.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Did Parler violate Amazon’s ToS or not? Does Amazon have the right to say that their infrastructure can’t be used to advocate assassinating the Vice President or not?
The law suit will hinge on those questions more than whether they were acting to suppress a company’s business.

NOW they care about mike pence?



Right. And the Russians took Crimea because they care about the Ukrainians.

 

[jamil]

NOW they care about mike pence?



Right. And the Russians took Crimea because they care about the Ukrainians.

It doesn’t matter whether they care about Pence or what. What matters is that people used Parler to talk about assassinating the VPOTUS, which violated the ToS.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

It doesn’t matter whether they care about Pence or what. What matters is that people used Parler to talk about assassinating the VPOTUS, which violated the ToS.

So if people use Gmail to discuss a crime they should be shut down? Or Twitter? Or Facebook? Or...? Does this only apply to conservative outlets?

 

[BugI02]

I'm a big fan of the high road.

Then I'll get to Scotland afore ye

 

[Hatin Since 87]

“The high road” sounds like it should be a Grateful Dead song.

 

[JettaKnight]

I have watched the right take the high road all my life, and I have watched the left use it against us until we are where we are now.

I do not like it at all.

I also take great exception you using the terms myth and ruse.

If you think the election was not stolen by the low road cheaters, I have nothing else to say to you.

While my sentiments toward you certainly don't equal yours to Kut, then I guess all is said.

I stand by my use of the words myth and ruse, and I stand by my assertion that the high road is best. I have to answer to a higher power than Congress.

 

[IndyDave1776]

I don’t doubt that you might think it’s turning the other cheek. You can’t win by doing what they do. You don’t have a press willing to lie for you. What you have is a reputation most of you haven’t earned, thrust upon you by fiction. And then when you start playing the part, it fits as if you’ve always played it that way. You will lose.

How is capitulating working out for us? How does it benefit our cause to parrot the left's horseshit that election fraud is a myth? How does it benefit us to let them attack 24/7/365 for decades while we smile like empty-headed fools while we get our sees handed to us by a relentless enemy?

 

[jamil]

So if people use Gmail to discuss a crime they should be shut down? Or Twitter? Or Facebook? Or...? Does this only apply to conservative outlets?

Wait. Let's may sure we're talking about the same thing. Okay, so what if someone uses Gmail to discuss some kind of crime they commit. I think that would be clearly against Google's ToS. I think what would happen is that they would flag the email and deal with it, possibly call law enforcement.

Parler runs their app on AWS servers. Gmail runs on Google's servers. So it's not even possible for the Gmail example to analogous to Parler. But just as Gmail is expected to flag that email, Parler is expected and required by the ToS with Amazon to flag such posts and take the appropriate action. The one where someone was encouraging the assassination of Pence, shoul have been flagged, the authorities called, and the user who posted it banned or suspended. The problem was, AWS alleged that Parler wasn't doing that.

They were just letting the stuff go. And maybe it's an issue where they just don't have the expertise and technology to be able to do that. Gmail uses AI to read EVERYONE's mail so that they can sell you cheap **** from China. I'm pretty sure their bots also are designed to detect communications which break the law.

 

[jamil]

How is capitulating working out for us? How does it benefit our cause to parrot the left's horseshit that election fraud is a myth? How does it benefit us to let them attack 24/7/365 for decades while we smile like empty-headed fools while we get our sees handed to us by a relentless enemy?

Clearly a better strategy is needed. But if you try the if-you-can't-beat-them-join-them strategy, you can't pull that off. You don't have the press for it. You don't control all the major societal institutions. All you'll do is make it easier for them to knock you down.

 

[larcat]

Wait. Let's may sure we're talking about the same thing. Okay, so what if someone uses Gmail to discuss some kind of crime they commit. I think that would be clearly against Google's ToS. I think what would happen is that they would flag the email and deal with it, possibly call law enforcement.

Parler runs their app on AWS servers. Gmail runs on Google's servers. So it's not even possible for the Gmail example to analogous to Parler. But just as Gmail is expected to flag that email, Parler is expected and required by the ToS with Amazon to flag such posts and take the appropriate action. The one where someone was encouraging the assassination of Pence, shoul have been flagged, the authorities called, and the user who posted it banned or suspended. The problem was, AWS alleged that Parler wasn't doing that.

They were just letting the stuff go. And maybe it's an issue where they just don't have the expertise and technology to be able to do that. Gmail uses AI to read EVERYONE's mail so that they can sell you cheap **** from China. I'm pretty sure their bots also are designed to detect communications which break the law.

You've cut to the core of it here.
The only orgs with the potential to moderate in an automated fashion are FAANG, basically.
This goes to the core of 230, and the claims of monopolistic practice, and why in the end bug tech will probably be fine with regs... They can, upstarts can't.
Remains to be litigated tho.