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  • Henry

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    I didn't realize how lucky I was to not have turned gay. I was exposed to it when I was about 8 and somehow managed not to contract it.

    Hmm...then again, neither did anyone else I knew. Maybe I wasn't as lucky as I just thought. Maybe your thought process is as silly as the one that says all homosexuals are pedophiles. Don't let that stop you from getting into an uproar over this though.

    There is no reason to bring pedophiles into this.

    People can't help who they love. If they could, why would anyone choose to be a pedophile, particularly given how they are treated by society? They can't help how they were born.
     

    Dead Duck

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    There is no reason to bring pedophiles into this.

    People can't help who they love. If they could, why would anyone choose to be a pedophile, particularly given how they are treated by society? They can't help how they were born.

    No -
    But we can help how they will die. :rolleyes:

    Are you really advocating pedophiles?
     

    Trigger Time

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    Ahhhhh, baloney Common sense and nature can handle this . For those who say ,this does not hurt anyone , ever hear lead by example , or monkey see monkey do . Well if you want to back this crap ,then lead by example , go gay get married , or shut the hell up. As far as your kids go if they see these marriages [gay] monkey sees , monkey learns , monkey does the same . Now when all of you who support this are married to your gay lovers and your kids all follow , monkey style ,your fine example , in one or two generations there will be no children . We will all just die off ,and the animals by nature will rule the world. It,s a law of nature ,and if you support Gays , you really need to examine your thought process . I treat them like any one else when I meat them ,nicely , but I will not support there public image in my face.
    Oh yeah man right on! Planet of the apes !! I love that damn movie!!
     

    buckwacker

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    There is no reason to bring pedophiles into this.

    People can't help who they love. If they could, why would anyone choose to be a pedophile, particularly given how they are treated by society? They can't help how they were born.

    I'm fairly certain that could be purple.

    Why should it be purple? People would have had the same reaction to gay marriage 50 years ago. We've become "enlightened" with regard to gay marriage. Is it not conceivable that we may become "enlighted" with regard to "relationships" with the younger members of society at some point in the future?
     

    jamil

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    Why should it be purple? People would have had the same reaction to gay marriage 50 years ago. We've become "enlightened" with regard to gay marriage. Is it not conceivable that we may become "enlighted" with regard to "relationships" with the younger members of society at some point in the future?

    I think humans will someday have their animal "partners" covered under Obamacare.
     

    buckwacker

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    Ok, let's talk about anarchy. It is the absence of government and law, not morality. Morality is the basis of some laws while protecting the rights of everyone is the basis for the majority of them. Tell me how allowing gay marriage leads to total lawlessness of the masses? It doesn't.

    He never said "my moral standards are higher than yours" thus never claimed as much. Rather, words were placed in is mouth (so to speak).

    What leads to anarchy being thought to be resulted as a "lack of morality" is the fact that people will infringe on the rights of others in immoral manners, such as murder and robbery. Again, I must ask, how does the government have the right to govern morality? What morals do we follow? Christian, Muslim, Jewish, what? The answer is you can't enforce one set of morals without infringing on the rights of the others and you can't enforce all of them without infringing on morals of the other ones.

    The claim was made the best moral standard was that nothing should be against the law unless someone is harmed. He claimed it to be superior. I didn't put words in his mouth.

    Further if we can't legislate morality we cannot make determinations in the eyes of the law with regard to right and wrong. If we can't make those determinations, we cant make law. If we don't make law we have anarchy.
     

    Denny347

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    The claim was made the best moral standard was that nothing should be against the law unless someone is harmed. He claimed it to be superior. I didn't put words in his mouth.

    Further if we can't legislate morality we cannot make determinations in the eyes of the law with regard to right and wrong. If we can't make those determinations, we cant make law. If we don't make law we have anarchy.
    The caveat is "consenting adults." What business is it of yours if 2 people you don't know get married? Gay or straight. Children cannot give consent, they cannot enter into contracts, they not adults and cannot make adult choices.
     

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    The caveat is "consenting adults." What business is it of yours if 2 people you don't know get married? Gay or straight. Children cannot give consent, they cannot enter into contracts, they not adults and cannot make adult choices.

    Neither can the mentally deficient. It wasn't all that long ago people that were homosexual were considered to be just that. Guess what...times change. Peoples' attitudes change and just because you're warm and comfy in your little paradigm doesn't mean future generations won't someday look back at your bigotry and sigh just like we do to our predecessors. Your definition of right and wrong is not some universal truth.
     

    Denny347

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    Neither can the mentally deficient. It wasn't all that long ago people that were homosexual were considered to be just that. Guess what...times change. Peoples' attitudes change and just because you're warm and comfy in your little paradigm doesn't mean future generations won't someday look back at your bigotry and sigh just like we do to our predecessors. Your definition of right and wrong is not some universal truth.
    This is correct.
     

    buckwacker

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    The caveat is "consenting adults." What business is it of yours if 2 people you don't know get married? Gay or straight. Children cannot give consent, they cannot enter into contracts, they not adults and cannot make adult choices.

    I'm not sure what children have to do with the post you quoted. But since you mentioned it, if we can redefine the word marriage to mean something it never has, what is to stop society from redefining at what age a child becomes an adult? 16?...12?...8? We are having this discussion because certain groups of people have worked to change societies perceptions with regard to their lifestyle. Don't think it can't happen with another group you currently consider "immoral".
     

    mrjarrell

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    Just bear in mind that ages of consent have been steadily INCREASING over the last 30 years, not decreasing and there is NO indication that it will go anywhere but up. In my home state the old age of consent back before the change was 12. It is now much higher, as it is everywhere else. Pedophilia has NO PLACE in this discussion.
     

    GodFearinGunTotin

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    Just bear in mind that ages of consent have been steadily INCREASING over the last 30 years, not decreasing and there is NO indication that it will go anywhere but up. In my home state the old age of consent back before the change was 12. It is now much higher, as it is everywhere else. Pedophilia has NO PLACE in this discussion.

    Aren't you so quaint in your old-timey thinking...
     
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