Will you take the Covid Vaccine?

[avboiler11]

At this point my biggest concern is that the 2nd dose won't be available for many people. Seems like the demand is higher than the supply and the supply chain doesn't seem to be able to deliver. I hope I'm wrong. I'm due for my second dose in 3 weeks, got my first dose last week.

What I do know is that a 1 million doses a day, which is Biden's goal (and which was close to what was being injected at the end of the Trump administration) the rollout is going too slow to get to herd immunity until we get into the fall of this year.

The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine will likely get EUA by the end of this month; those 100M firm doses will help speed the process along in spring.


AstraZeneca and Novavax likely aren't too far behind, with 300M and 100M firm doses respectively.

 

[marvin02]

Did anyone else get an email from the state about the vaccine? I got two. One on the email account that I used for my fishing license and one on my email account I use for my BMV account. I have never signed up for emails from the Dept. of Health with any email address.

 

[KMaC]

I registered to get the shot as soon as I heard "over 65" were eligible.
Yes, I'll take the shot, sprinkle it on my ice cream or take it it as a suppository.
I just want to go wherever I want in the time I have left and live as normally as possible. I will not relive 2020.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

Bloomberg: More Americans have received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine than have tested positive

Bloomberg’s data on vaccinations shows that 26.5 million Americans have received one or more doses of the vaccine, surpassing the total of almost 26.3 million coronavirus cases that Johns Hopkins University has recorded.

Wow! The new administration got that revved up really, really, really fast... you might even say at Warp Speed!

 

[BigRed]

Amazing how easy it is to control people.

Were I to even attempt to contol a game animal in any way such as this, I would be held in violation of some rule re: game species.

 

[BigRed]

Good luck, Ladies.

Discern wisely.

 

[JettaKnight]

Bloomberg: More Americans have received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine than have tested positive



Wow! The new administration got that revved up really, really, really fast... you might even say at Warp Speed!

More like ludicrous speed.

 

[hamiltonrrwatch]

Did anyone else get an email from the state about the vaccine?

Yes.

Fortunately with my system, it's easy to block spam.

 

[melensdad]

What they are saying is that while vaccines are know to prevent illness from the virus (in around 90%, depending), they do not have enough information to conclude that a vaccinated person cannot pass it. That's a little different and I expect the knowledge base to grow on this issue and suspect that they will find that they cannot pass it on. Honestly, it seems like a safe conclusion, but the people who do these studies will not shoot from the hip, right or wrong.

Quoted & highlighted because some people need to hear this again, and again, and again because they don't understand how information gets distorted.

I hear people saying, and repeating, that the vaccines do not work and you will still get sick and you will still spread it even if you are not sick.

Data from other diseases that have been treated by vaccines (like Polio and Smallpox) show that you can't get it and you can't pass it on. But we have DECADES of evidence with those diseases. It is very likely that vaccinated people will NOT be able to pass this disease along, but the science proving that simply does not exist yet because we have not been fighting it for long enough.

And while this disease is mutating, it is possible some vaccinated people will be infected but if so it is likely the vaccine will only give them minor issues. Vaccines can be partially effective.

 

[avboiler11]

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

 

[HoughMade]

It is best to think of vaccines as "resistance" rather than "immunity". While most people's resistance will be raised so much that they are, essentially, immune, just like any other disease that there are vaccinations for, for one reason or another, some people's resistance will not be raised high enough for "immunity".

The information for the vaccine from the study I am in indicates that in the very few instances where a vaccinated person got the virus, the severity is very low; lower than being unvaccinated. Think of it like the immune system having a head start.

 

[HoughMade]

Amazing how easy it is to control people.

Were I to even attempt to contol a game animal in any way such as this, I would be held in violation of some rule re: game species.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

More like ludicrous speed.

Literally, the day of the inauguration



Pretty sure it started out as a meh day... then 12:01, wow!

 

[Hardscrable]

FYI regarding appointments. Apparently scheduling online does not always result in earliest available appointments. Communication within circle of our friends has shown discrepancies. After announcement yesterday of opening to 65 & up word was passed around and then who got appointments & when. Someone would get an appointment 3 or 4 weeks out then someone later would get an appointment at the same place but next week or at another site across town much sooner. 1 friend was first scheduled for 3/3. Heard of this, called a toll free number and changed to another location on 2/23. Same person called back this morning and got an appointment tomorrow 2/2 at same location as his first appointment made yesterday for 3/2...they had openings all day tomorrow. After this word passed around this morning 2 other friends have called and got appointments 3 or 4 weeks earlier at the same location as their first appointment made yesterday.It seems apparently that the info online is not always the same info that the call center has. So anyone wanting an earlier appointment than they have might want to try calling. You cannot do this online if you already have an appointment, you must call. The agent has to cancel the first appointment.

1-855-523-225 between 8AM & 8PM.

 

[Ziggidy]

I must tell ya, I'm struggling about whether to get it or not. My only concern is the speed a which it was developed and the ever so small trial base; add the fact that we have never had a vaccine like this before (how it works).

My ONLY reason I would get it is out of fear. I had the virus back in June and it was not nice.....very rough. I am not sure how I would handle that a second time.

I don't trust the government nor the drug companies when it comes to covid.....so I struggle.

 

[HoughMade]

I must tell ya, I'm struggling about whether to get it or not. My only concern is the speed a which it was developed and the ever so small trial base; add the fact that we have never had a vaccine like this before (how it works).

My ONLY reason I would get it is out of fear. I had the virus back in June and it was not nice.....very rough. I am not sure how I would handle that a second time.

I don't trust the government nor the drug companies when it comes to covid.....so I struggle.

I don't know what the cost is, but you could always get your antibodies tested- not a "yes" or "no" test, but a level. From that, some educated speculation could be made about whether you retain resistance. Chances are you do, but at what level is tough to say. At the very least, if you contracted it again (and while it is possible, it is not common), some information suggests that your body would be able to fight it off better, making for a milder case.

If you knew, roughly, what your resistance could be, you could make a decision about whether to wait for more information about the vaccines.

Also, there are vaccines in the pipeline that do not use mRNA (although I personally have no qualms about mRNA). Novavax (currently in Stage 3) uses a "subunit" protein that has been used in other vaccines. AstraZeneca uses DNA, but from an inactivated cold virus, so it's a bit more "old tech" in a way. Johnson and Johnson also uses a technology previously used in other vaccines.

 

[Ziggidy]

Thanks.....I appreciate it.

 

[avboiler11]

26.5M Americans have received a Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccine...is that a big enough test cohort?

 

[JettaKnight]

I must tell ya, I'm struggling about whether to get it or not. My only concern is the speed a which it was developed and the ever so small trial base; add the fact that we have never had a vaccine like this before (how it works).

My ONLY reason I would get it is out of fear. I had the virus back in June and it was not nice.....very rough. I am not sure how I would handle that a second time.

I don't trust the government nor the drug companies when it comes to covid.....so I struggle.

Fear, or maybe altruism, is rally the only reason to get a vaccine, no? I fear tetanus (ever check out the symptoms?), so I keep up on it.

AFIAK, the trial sizes were comparable to other drugs.

 

[Hawkeye]

Fear, or maybe altruism, is rally the only reason to get a vaccine, no? I fear tetanus (ever check out the symptoms?), so I keep up on it.

AFIAK, the trial sizes were comparable to other drugs.

I don't know as its "fear" per se. I'd say prudence.